After rewatching Abraham/Taylor .. Dirrell beats Arthur impressively

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  1. boxerpuncher

    boxerpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    Unless Abraham knocks Dirrell out, I don't see how Arthur can win a 12 rounder.

    In the first 5 to 6 rounds of there fight, Jermain pitched a shutout. He used his jab, boxed beautifully, and frustrated Arthur to the point where around the 6th round Arthur was lunging in with wild looping punches hoping he could start something. Now I know ... Arthur is a slow starter. Very methodical, and calculated. He almost always looses 4 to 5 rounds before he starts up. If he does this against Dirrell he WILL loose! One of the key points that cost Taylor the fight was engaging with Abraham. He fought Abraham's fight. He let Abraham get in his head with the rabbit punches. That really pissed Jermain off and got of his plan.

    All Dirrell has to do is fight a discipline fight. Keep that jab in his face! That will frustrate him, just like it did in the Taylor fight. Touch the body from time to time, (Arthur doesn't like the body shots at all. I watched that closely in alot of his fights) and watch the wild looping punches that follow after his frustration sets in. Dirrell by UD!

    What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    If you think Taylor was 6 rounds up after 6 you should probably watch it one more time...

    Can you point me to a Dirrell fight where he has shown that ability? Or are you saying that 'all' he needs to do is something that we have yet to see him do at any point in his career?
     
  3. boxerpuncher

    boxerpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I agree, not a Dirrell that we've seen in the past (ever actually ..) And yes, something we have yet to see. He's got the blueprint laid out for him, and he's a much better boxing than Taylor.

    I rewatched it today, and Abraham didnt' do anything for 5 rounds. The 6th is debatable because he was getting wild, after Taylor put 5 rds in the bank.

    How can you win rd's hiding behind your guard?
     
  4. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My thought is that you don't know Arthur very good...
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't see what's so impressive in the wya you described Dirrell winning. Build an early lead while his opponent is cold and then hold on to it by surviving through some close rounds.
     
  6. dilayro

    dilayro Active Member Full Member

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    Both defensive fighter going at it. It is a surefire snoozer.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Dirrell is going to give Abraham a beating. Abraham gave up 4 rounds to a punchy, gunshy, lack of stamina, shot Taylor.


    Dirrell learned alot in the Froch fight. He learned that when you are the higher skilled boxer, your opponent will do anything, rabbit punching, body slams, to defeat you and you cant get out of your game because of it, and Dirrell was composed enough even after the bull**** point deduction, to school froch down the stretch and stagger him showing he has power.


    Abraham is not nearly as active as Froch, the only Dirrell has to worry about is his explosiveness.

    In reality this should be an easy fight for Dirrell, he holds the advantage in nearly every category except power and even then Abraham has never faced a fighter like Dirrell who isnt there to throw those wide lunging hooks that he throws. Those might land against a tired lateral moving Taylor, against Dirrell, nah.
     
  8. boxerpuncher

    boxerpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    I do, I do. He's a guy that has no pattern. Fights in spurts, but explosive ones. He lulls his opponents into thinking they can hit him at will than knocks them the f-- out. As mentioned, he's very methodical and is very smart in the ring.

    All I'm merely saying is that Dirrell has the style to beat him if he can avoid being sucked into exchanges that favor Abraham. Abraham has been befuddled by good boxers. He starts slow and gives away rounds, hiding behind his guard. I believe Dirrell can make him pay for that. Take em deep, to where he's only recourse is to knock Dirrell out. (which I know Abraham is very capable of doing)
     
  9. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    Dirrell will loose by knockout, he will get starched cold like Taylor. Abraham has an extremely high boxing IQ and throws those wild shots to study the head movement of his opponents and then BAM. Dirrell will probably give him trouble because of his movement, speed but I don't see him landing anything meaningful. If Dirrell was so good he would have given Froch a much better fight. As soon as Abraham lands it's lights out. Dirrell has all the tools but not the mentality and experience
     
  10. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While Dirrell is very skilled, very talented and very fast (both with his hands and on his feet), he won't win against Arthur and here's why:

    Arthur won't give away his "0" to someone like him. Dirrell has not enough heart, is not determined enough. Arthur never needed the KO and like he often states, the KO is happening sooner or later, you can't bet on it, but it you've the right game plan and massive punching power, then it will come.

    What happens if Dirrell really is able to outbox Abraham for more than 6 rounds? I predict that all hell will break loose if that happens. Abraham never really needed the KO, if he does he has to take more risks and with his chin he's capable of taking these risks. Dirrell has never fought someone with that kind of power before. His game plan will be distracted as soon as he tastes Abraham's canons, but if he really is able to lead on the scorecards at the 2nd half of the fight, Abraham will make him pay.
     
  11. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    Can't agree more. :good
     
  12. boxerpuncher

    boxerpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    I appreciate the sweet science. That's what attracted me to boxing in the first place. Its not always about going in there and hope someone gets knocked out. Watching a little guy go in there and destroy a big guy with well placed jabs, and controlled aggression. Showing the world that it takes more than brute strength to succeed in sport like this. Thats what I mean by impressive and I believe Dirrell has that skill to beat Arthur.
     
  13. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has the skill, but does he have the heart? I'm not convinced.
     
  14. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just don't see it. Dirrell had a lot of trouble establishing himself against a slower, less skilled, and easier to hit Froch. Abraham took over the fight with Taylor from the third round on, and was landing pretty consistently before that. I have Arthur in this one.
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    But you really think Dirrell is a real technical, slick boxer? I must say I like the punchers more, but I can enjoy watching guys like Whitaker and Leonard.
    But what Dirrell does has nothing to do with boxing imo, it's running, spoiling, hiding, complaining and avoiding the fight. I sure hope the Super6 is the last I've seen of the guy, or he's gonna make some dramatic style changes.