After The Fall: Which Of These Middleweights Are Capable Of Defeating Canelo Alvarez?

This is assuming he gets KTFO by GGG.....

Who will beat him down afterward?

I've already stated my opinion on this matter previously, I personally think Canelo is going to have a hell of a hard time competing with the real big boys. He and Oscar have been playing the weight game masterfully, he's been a solid LMW for 6 years, so solid he comes in as a Light Heavyweight and fought 4 actual legit LHW's in the last 3 years, and managed to look pretty bad against two of them. But the majority of his matches have consisted of him muscling little puny Welterweights around with relative ease, and even failing to KO many of them.

But when he finally moves up what will happen, will his mediocre power remain the same or will it have even less impact on legitimate Middleweights who also usually rehydrated up to 170 on fight night? Personally I think Canelo the master weight cutter will go the same route as Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. who starved himself to boil down to the MW limit only to balloon up overnight to full fledged Cruiserweight, which of course gave him the extra power to hurt guys like Lee and Martinez, who didn't come close to rehydrating that high, they were probably physically incapable of it. When Julio Jr. finally decided to fight at his natural weight he was ruthlessly bludgeoned senseless by The Polish Prince Fonfara in one of the most vicious one sided beatdowns in recent memory.

Or will he go the route of Nicholas Walters who drug up tiny ass Bantamweights who made him look like a behemoth like Nonito and Vic, his massive size advantage made it almost a guarantee that they never had a chance. And what happened? He moved up to his natural weight and fought guys his own size and his power seemingly disappeared overnight, while he looked good against Sosa, that probably won't be the case against a quality operator who doesn't have to fear what's coming back at him. Sure Walters can still make an impact at SFW but it won't be nearly as easy as many thought previously.

Or could Canelo go the Orlando Salido route who had an iron chin against most FW's except for another weight cutter in Mikey Garcia, but as soon a he moved up to SFW, while he has gone the distance every time, he's been up and down like an inflatable punching bag, down several times against both Terdsak Kokietgym and Rocky Martinez, I fear for his health when he steps in the ring with Vargas. The power is a little too much for Siri when he's playing on an even playing field and not the guy with the considerable weight advantage.



So will Canelo Crash And Burn, or will he become a Dominant Force at Middleweight? How Will He Fare?
I'd like to hear your opinions on how matches against these fighters would play out.

Billy Joe Saunders, who's a hell of a lot bigger than most seem to think he is, he's 5'11 2 inches taller than Trout and Lara, and has faced some decent punchers like O'Sullivan, Lee and Ryder. He's as slick slippery as hell, no one to date has been able to beat him, or even come close to looking good against him, add to that he's a southpaw, just like Trout and Lara, and can be a very disciplined southpaw when need be. He has something in common with Canelo, he tends to take his foot of the gas after he has the fight won and gas in the last 4 rounds. I say Saunders easily UD's Canelo, would he get the decision, if its here in America, doubtful. A BJS KO win wouldn't shock me at all, if Khan can rock him, Saunders can.

Daniel Jacobs, this is a 60-40 fight IMO, I favor Jacobs, but that chin is a bit of a concern. While I don't think Canelo has near enough power to hurt most MW's, Mora dropped Jacobs hard, if he can KO any MW, Jacobs might be the guy. As far as actual Boxing skills go, Jacobs is levels above Alvarez, Danny is defensively far more responsible than he was against Pirog, and regardless on his best day Canelo is no Pirog. In all likelihood Jacobs walks Canelo down, dismantles him thoroughly and KO's Canelo late.

David Lemieux, has improved immensely since his losses to Rubio and Alcine, he was 22 and inexperienced, blew his load against Rubio early and gassed, against Alcine it looked like all was lost, he had his Bute-Grachev moment, no confidence at all, he was almost shellshocked, it was a terrible performance. But since then he's come roaring back with a far more measured and methodical approach, doesn't go full bore and takes his time to break down his opponents. Okay he lost to GGG, so what. He brutally KO's Canelo, he has far too much power and in case it may be Canelo that Gasnelos.

Matvey Korobov, don't let the KO loss to Andy Lee fool you, he's still a solid incredibly tough opponent for most fighters to deal with, he's like a methodical assassin, he will break you down, exploit your weaknesses and frustrate the hell out of you. His chin is more than solid enough to take anything Canelo can dish out, Lee's right hook didn't even drop him, Canelo's shots will have little effect. He's also a southpaw, a style Canelo struggles with. Thoroughly outboxes Canelo and stops him late.


Andy Lee, while Andy is chinny as hell, no one has been able to stop him since that morbidly obese Cruiserweight took him out a few years ago. He has excellent powers of recovery, and one hell of a heart on him. Can Canelo drop him, yeah, can Canelo stop him, I doubt it. Lee is most likely between 6 to 7 inches taller than Canelo and has a reach advantage as well, so it won't be easy at all for Alvarez to get on the inside with Andy and work his body, since no one else has had the guts to attempt it recently and for good reason, oh and he's also a southpaw, I see this as a chess match that ends around the 7th with Canelo being KO'd cold by a Lee right hook.

Chris Eubank Jr., while I'm not the biggest fan of his, stylistically I think he's a poor fit for Canelo, he has decent in and out attack, and he's relentless, the pace he could set could easily wear down Canelo by the middle rounds, and how will Canelo deal with being beaten around like a rag doll? The sheer volume of punches CEJ will launch at him could possibly overwhelm him. I doubt Canelo can hurt him either, he's seems to be a chip off the old block in the chin department. CEJ mauls Canelo to a late TKO stoppage.

Sergiy Derevyanchenko, he's as well rounded a fighter at Middleweight as they come, he's offensively brilliant, his combinations are as good if not better than Canelo's, he's cuts the distance beautifully, he's defensively amazing in close or at range, I don't se any way that Canelo can beat Derevyanchenko. He's almost like a GGG/Canelo hybrid. Sergiy by UD or late TKO.

Curtis Stevens, built like a tank, roughly the same size as Canelo, and P4P punching far harder than anyone Canelo has shared a ring with. He's clearly improved under John David Jackson, so can this more offense minded version of Stevens walk down and brutally KO Canelo, its a definite possibility. Stevens KO or Canelo UD.

Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam, don't let the multiple KD's against Quillin and Lemieux fool you, his powers of recovery are unparalleled, I have no idea how he survived against Quillin and David, but he did and proceeded to win almost every round he wasn't beig dropped in. N'Dam is a very mobile fighter and on his day can produce masterful performances, like his easy UD of Stevens and his close victory over the MW Tyson Avtandil Khurtsidze, he was never down against either of them, they were too short to reach his chin, just like Canelo. N'Dam UD but probably gets robbed.

Brian Carols Castano, he's IMO the heir apparent at MW to Maravilla Martinez, he's offensively sound, and defensively sound, he can fight coming forward and on the backfoot, he can pot shot or punch in volume, and he has power to back it up, with a solid chin. He could be another terrible style clash for Canelo as well, he's almost like a CEJ/Derevyanchenko hybrid. Castano by UD but probably gets robbed as well.


And there's several others like Quillin, Quigley, Soro, Khytrov etc.

Will he be wiped out and never be a force again?

Or After The Fall and Against All Odds with a Burning Heart can Canelo come roaring back and wipe out the rest of the Middleweight Division and be a solid number 2.

Maybe....but I doubt it.

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So Please vote and leave your opinions. Make this a good debate. I'm sure there's differing opinions on here, argue the pros and cons as to why each guy would win or lose. This could be good if you all keep it civil.

 

Yeah pretty much