I Keep hearing people talk about that Pac is willing to get tested after the fight, after the fight, after the fight, well if Pac is the beast that the Media makes him out to be, what "IF" he goes in there and seriously injuries Mayweather ( A BIG ****ING IF ) but what if that happens, and then its discovered Pac is on something after all, there aint no ****ing do overs in boxing, you can die in that ring. Look at Cotto, he was a shell of his former self, he had his -0- taken which is important to every fighter, not just mayweather, he had his punch resistant took, he looked gun shy and distraught at times, and all this because he fought with a mother****er wit bricks in his hands. Mosley that little smiling **** that gets a pass at every turn, a known steroid user, hes allowed to fight taking the same urine analysis tests that he took before, the same ones that let him cheat oscar twice, the same ones that didn't catch him then, and can't catch him now if he is using PED, the only guarantee anyone has fighting him is that he says hes not doping. You can take back victories or losses in the minds of the people, but you can't take back punches, ask oscar, ask cotto. One more thing people keep talking about PAC's power, lets imagine that he has always been a power puncher, lets imagine that he has developed his right hand to match his left, lets imagine that his last 4 KO's are the products of power and not clever matchmaking of shot,flat footed, no defensive,weight drained,shop worn, purely left handed fighters.. But now lets realize that Pac has been KO'd, Knocked down many times, put on ***** street by OSCAR LARIOSatsch . You can develop power but you don't develop a chin, that more than anything else lends me to believe something is ****ing amiss with the Pac and his whole camp, You don't go from getting KO to having a world class chin, from getting KO by people less than 120 pounds, to taking 147 pound world class punchers best shots, that **** does not happen. Some guys carry power up in weight up, but your chin is your chin, its the thing that makes alot of fighters great or average, look at RJJ once that China is broken you can glue it up all you want the **** is still broken. :deal
so pacquiao is offering to take a blood test after the fight, not caring that he would get caught cheating, so he can mame mayweather jr.?
the usage would be an after thought..bonds hit 73 homeruns and it still is "the best ever in a season"....the performance enhancers he used are an after thought
So this went from being an easy fight for fraud to Pac could kill him in the ring if he doesnt get tested before the fight lol.
Pac would still get his faced swollen up. He would just take his ass whippin' honestly and not full of drugs.
wrong.. the analogy of barry bonds is unaplicable. there is no instance of bonds submitting to a test he subsequently failed. if either boxer failed an after bout blood test, the fight result would be stricken from the recordbooks, and the fighters reputation would be say all but unsalvageable. i suggest you accept pacquiaos willingness to take an after bout test as the indication it is. to fight it, wreaks of chickendom.
The funny thing is that even though they could never pin anything on Bonds they happily roasted his ass and ran him out of baseball. Funny how now when the shoe is on Manny's foot everyone is excusing ducking proper testing? http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-23-olympic-style-testing-the-last-hurdle_N.htm "There's a number of potent performance-enhancing drugs you can only find in blood," says Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA. Those PEDs including Human Growth Hormone, certain forms of EPO and synthetic hemoglobin. "If you want the most effective program, it's the world program. The world's experts know you have to collect blood and urine." --- Tygart insists that setting blackout dates for testing is inadequate, and educating athletes on why that can't be done is important. "If you give a blackout date, there's plenty of things you can do to cheat and get away with it," he says of the potential to use masking agents. "That's why it's not allowed."
No it is exactly the same. Barry underwent all the tests proposed by the league and passed them all. Still they tainted his Legacy.
Manny is scared of needles... Manny is scared of needles from the United States Anti-Doping Agency!!! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbmqay72a6o&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
in other words, you don't need evidence. you will convict without it. well in the USA, prevailing wisdom rules inocence in absence of proven guilt. so, i will choose to follow the letter in viewing manny pacquiao as being so good, that boxers like floyd mayweather jr. think he must be cheating. without proof, all they are left with is fear to get in the ring with him.
Hey I agree. I didn't previously assume the man's guilt. Check my posts on other threads. I actually said Mayweather Sr. should not go there until there is more evidence. IMHO though, this is the evidence. What HONEST grown man lets, and I am speaking literally, the most lucrative fight in history slip through his fingers because of a test he knows he can pass? Who? Nobody! If Manny was not cheating this fight would have been made yesterday. There are over 20 million reasons and counting to make this fight!
