After the Fury loss I am certain Wlad will not be regarded as favourably in 20 years

Dammit. I wanted to be the first.

 

Let's see:

If Wlad comes back and brutalizes Fury in the rematch, and then after he's gone Fury reigns as champ for 3-4 years ... I think things will work out very well indeed for Wlad.

 

he will be regarded as he has done in real life, great longevity (last decent performance was aged 36/37, which compares with lewis etc) coupled with poor H2H ability (serial losses to "early wbo", fringe and non contenders)

 

IMHO if he retired right now he'd be a 10-5 ATG HW without question.

 

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

^ Dino telling me I DKSAB

Actually he was pretty decent for a change. Hope he's OK ...

 

So let me get this straight. Fury's win was so impressive when he landed 7.1 punches a round but Wlad only won because he was physically superior to his opponents? Fury just sat back threw no punches and used his size to beat Wlad but it is Wlad who only won because of his size? :rofl

Again, if Fury loses the rematch he will be listed along with Rahman and Leon Spinks as the shortest reigning and worst Heavyweight champions of all time.

 

Actually if Wlad blasts him out Fury would come off worse than Rahman who you could say had a puncher's chance against almost anyone.

 

I think Wlad will be regarded more favourably in 20 years than now. The Klitschko brothers will be remembered in history as the first great HWs from Eastern Europe. A loss to Fury at almost 40 years of age isn't tragic. People will forget some of the boring fights and remember the great entrances, full stadiums and watch the highlight reel.

 

You are talking in circles saying Wlad only won because of his size when Fury just did the exact same thing. Size was the only reason Fury won the Cunningham fight as well. He overpowered and fouled Cunningham to death with holding, clinching, wrestling, grabbing, etc eventually literally holding Cunningham with one arm and punching him with the other to get the win (all this after getting knocked down by Cunningham who has no power and isn't even a Heavyweight)

The Wlad-Fury fight was atrocious I am not sure who would want to sit through that garbage again and yes I agree that Wlad may very well likely lose again. The point is you keep saying that Wlad only won because of his size yet the guy you keep praising was so reluctant he only landed 7.1 punches a round in what you are trying to paint as some masterclass boxing display. It was a garbage fight between two guys who refused to throw punches.

Fury had no desire to engage with a dead man in front of him who refused to throw punches.

 

I specifically used the word "prime". Prime Eddie Chambers was a better fighter than Jennings, Martin, Browne, Glazkov all of whom are considered top10 HWs now.

Typical DinoDope bulls****. Wlad never deserved a DQ againt Sam Peter, It was Peter who dropped Wlad twice by rabbit punches.

Talk about Lewis' performance against overrated David Tua who got outboxed by Byrd less than a year later his fight with Lewis, same Byrd got completely dominated by Wlad a year ago.

When you look at it like this, It's as plain as day what a sickly obsessed hater you are.

 

So first it was 'prime' Peter would be top 5 today. Now 'prime' Chambers would be a #1 Contender? atsch

Morons like you are aren't even worth debating with.

Chambers is around 30 years old and still active. Since when is he not prime?

Harold Lederman called for his DQd in the first fight and he was 100% right.

This article tells you everything you need to know about fight #2.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/09/steward-was-telling-wladimir-to-stop-clinching-peter/

A fight so bad his own German crown even began booing him. A bum like Peter makes you look good . Like Tua done for Lewis. The fact he yo-yo'd Wlad around the ring 3 times proves how bad was/is.
Unable to handle Peter - like Wlad was unable to , is damning indictment on everything that was wrong with him as a boxer.
When you struggle with Peter , you have no business whatsoever being associated with greatness.
Add in being blown away by Sanders , Brewster and Purrity - on top of a robbery win over Williamson - the Povetkin disgrace - shut out to Fury - and there is nothing left of any significance.

Here is it - Tua was overrated , nut Peter would be a top 5 ranker todayatsch

 

Mentally f****ed up, complete moronic, sickly haters like you who's dumb enough to believe age determines a fighter prime or not are complete waste of time.

Chambers' prime was 2006-2010. Anyone with half a brain cell can tell that by watching his fights, but you obviously haven't and as usual you're talking out of your ass.

The only one who deserved the DQ in the first fight, and yes Wlad is boring, has been for most of his career. But entertainment value doesn't define greatness.

And I'm sure if It's possibble to be associated with greatness with being blown away by Douglas, Williams, McBride, then I'm sure It's possible to be associated with greatness with Wlad's losses too.

Here It is, I never said Tua was worse than Peter you complete and utter moron. I said he was overrated, by idiots like you who claim he'd beat Klitschkos.

And of course, you ducked the rest of my post as ret@rded little p*ssy you are.