After the Keith Thurman upset, is Manny Pacquiao a greater fighter than Muhammad Ali?

No chance Floyd only "fights" MMA guys making their pro boxing debut or little japanese teenagers. Floyd knows he'd get his true deserts

 

^ ^ ^ ROFLMAO

 

Clearly? Clearly is how Pac lost to PBF. The fight was a clear UD win for PBF with no rematch needed.

 

as if Thurman hadn't almost been KO'd by a fringe contender in his previous fight.

 

Mayweather never clearly lost to anyone. They were both close fights, and he won by wide margins in the rematches. I'm not even saying he won, I had Castillo 1 2 points to Castillo and Maidana 1 a draw. To say he lost clearly is a joke. Pacs third fight with Marquez was more one sided.

Why Ortiz? The ref had given command to continue. Mayweather did, Ortiz tried to hug him. Mayweather KOed him
I agree with Judah. But by saying he should've been disqualified I can say Pacquiao should've been disqualified for hitting Marquez with his glove on the floor.

Yes. Because his fights with Ortiz, Castillo, Maidana and Judah are his defining wins. And by that same logic Pacquiao should have two more loses to Marquez, who he arguably never beat. Along with, Horn, Sangsurat, Torrecampo and Mayweather himself. In fact Floyd
schooled Pac. Anything Pac does now also benefits Floyd's legacy.

 

Can we see your pfp list? I'd love to see the gap between Margarito and Floyd

 

Be honest, if Pac rematches Horn and wins, what difference will that make? I see you are always saying that Pac had Horn problems, but you and I both know that if they fought again and Pac wins, it wouldn't crap. Most saw that fight as a Pac win (not in the books) anyways.

 

Agree with your first and third point but come on bro 8 division champ is a monumental achievement. If its so easy because of all the weight classes he wouldn't be the only fighter ever to achieve it. I personally have Pac at the very least in my top 20 all time.

 

Hes already ahead of FlIVd and Duran.

 

Because he needs to avenge his loss. It was a bad loss to take. The loss will remain if he rematches Horn but atleast if he wins he will have evened the score.

 

Duran is arguably a top 10 ATG he's not ahead of him or PBF who's behind Duran. Beating Thurman does not put you ahead of those two.

 

Of course it is. But I'd agree it's more impressive if he proved himself number 1 in all of them than Ali's HW reigns. That and the fact he arguably didn't actually do it.

It's not easy, its incredibly difficult. But it's easier today than it was 50 years ago. And I'd argue that it's easier than being an undisputed HW champion 3 times.

 

What? He ain't ahead of Floyd and sure as **** ain't ahead of Duran

 

Why does he NEED to though?? That fight will do absolutely nothing to his already established legacy. Duran also lost badly to lesser guys like Kirkland Laing and Robbie Simms and never rematched them and no one latches on to his losses and say he’s got ‘problems’. Are you really going to hold the Horn loss so much to put Pac a couple notches down ATG ranking?? I’m sorry but you clinging to the Horn ‘loss’ as a way to undermine Pac’s achievement just seems desperate.

 

He should do it because he doesnt have many options and that is a winnable fight for him. He wants to rematch pbf who's retired but not horn which is a horrible loss. It's one thing to lose to a atg like pbf but another to lose to horn. That's the fight that should keep him up at night. He needs to avenge it.