After Unification, where does Wald rank...

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  1. jaed

    jaed Member Full Member

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    He is possibly the best heavy TODAY. But he will never be an all time great. The heavy weight champ is not affraid of any man. Vlad is teffified of his own shadow in the ring.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Top 50 easy. Here is an older article on Wlad before he beat Austin or Ibragimov...


    Who are the
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    all time 30 heavyweights? You can pick your own. I'll list 30. Odds are we have matches on at least 20 names, and likely 25 names. I'm not here to debate any order, moreover just agree to a general consensus on the names.

    M. Ali,L. Holmes,J. Jeffries,J. Louis,S. Liston,G. Foreman,L Lewis,J. Dempsey,R. Marciano,R. Bowe,E. Holyfield,M. Tyson,J. Frazier,J. Johnson,V. Klitschko,G. Tunney,K. Norton,S. Langford,B. Fitzsimmons,J. Corbett,P. Jackson,H Wills,E. Charles,J Walcott, F. Patterson,M Schmeling,J.L. Sullivan,T. Witherspoon, and I.Ibeabuchi

    Now that we have the names out of the way, I'll get to my point. Is Wladimir Klitschko on his way to getting on this list? Let's examine.

    Current Winning percentage: 94.00%. 6th best of the listed 30 fighters

    KO Percentage:85.17%. 3rd best of the listed 30 fighters

    Heavyweight title bout record ( Alphabets included ) 8-2. At the
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    of the list in terms of total wins and percentage of wins. Some may roll their eyes at counting alphabet title defenses. Coutner point. Is a guy like Brock any worse than say half of Louis, Ali's, Frazier, or Holmes title opponents? I think not!

    Amount of times KO'd. 3 times. Only 13 of the 30 fighters have been Ko'd less. Many traditionally higher rated fighters were Ko'd more often, and in my opinion by lesser punchers.

    Size: Few were bigger

    Hand Speed: Few had faster hands

    Skills: Few had a better jab,,hook, right hand from a tecnical standpoint.

    Power: Few hit harder. Wlad has KO power in both hands

    Less bums: Wlad fought very few fighters with losing records

    All over 200 pounds: Wlad has always fought heavyweights.

    No color or geographical line: Wlad has never used the color line and has fought the best fighters from all over the world.

    Is Wlad on his way to making a
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    30 all time list? I listed 30 very good fighters. He rates well. I think so!
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I got him in my top 40, just behind Bowe.
     
  4. PolishPummler

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    One of the most overrated HW's ever.
     
  5. psychopath

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    All tme TOP 50? :lol:

    Nah . . . I don't go that deep . . . I only go up to top 15.
     
  6. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He also beat a prime ATG twice, something Wlad has yet to do. Look at there records, there comparable, and there level of competition is almost equal, Bowe has never been knocked out, and has only one loss on his record, Wlad has 3 and has been TKO'd in all his losses, 2 of them by Journeymen, and one a club fighter.
     
  7. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was about to type probably top then I realised the post was actually asking about all-time rather than current! I don't think we should even waste time thinking about whether he scrapes into the top 50.
     
  8. PolishPummler

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    Holyfield and that's it.

    That's Bowe's claim to fame.

    Surely if you are going to hold it against Wlad for being "mentally weak' you will hold that same standard for Bowe who was 'mentally a *****"

    Blatantly ducking Lewis will be known forever.
     
  9. dangerousity

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    ****in well said! In terms of ability and resume, he is easily top 30.
     
  10. Punisher33

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    Not taking a fight makes you mentally weak? Well, I guess we could put Vitali in that category then, he backed out of fights with Rahman, Mccline, and Maskaev(which was contractual), though in the ring he was tough as nails, just like Bowe, who went down against Holyfield in there 3rd fight, and came back to knock him out Holyfield in the following round I believe. Also showed extreme balls against your boy Golota both times, he took every kind a punch you can take from a prime Golota, and still kept fighting to win both matches, even knocking down Golota in the process.
     
  11. PolishPummler

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    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VITALI!

    Either hold the same standard for all or STFU!
     
  12. Punisher33

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    Everything I said in my post is true, pick it apart and you will find nothing but facts. If your going to call Bowe a *****, then you better call Vitali a ***** as well, which I dont think either one of them are "Mentally pussies", Bowe has never been knocked out in his career or was dropped nearly as many times as Wlad, Bowe lost to an ATG, Wlad lost by TKO to 2 journeymen and a club fighter. :deal
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    Vitali is awesome, the best! 6 time world superheavy kickboxing champion, both pro and amateur. WBO and WBC champion. World Amateur champion, world military champion, world International champion, used to fight a kickboxing fight, then boxing fight! Vitali would have knock Bowe out cold, so would Vlad.

    Vlad is the best heavyweight in the world today, by far.
     
  14. PolishPummler

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  15. nervousxtian

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    Wlad would be a 50/50 with any of the ATG. I hate to say it, but his new style, his size, his jab would trouble ANYONE of the old ATG... mainly the size and style would make him a bad match.

    ..yet he could get starched as well, but he's also a very good finisher when he has hurt guys in the past, and he does have an excellent right hand, he just didn't use it against Ibragimov because he was scared of that counter left, for good reason, remember Corey Sanders anyone???