After Watch the Taylor/Pavlik Countdown...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jose FM, Sep 22, 2007.


  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    That's what I'm clearly hinting at in my post, Pavlik needs to land A LOT of his punches to finally hurt Taylor, one punch won't totally wobble/brutally hurt Taylor like PacDBest is suggesting.
     
  2. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't say it will end by one punch KO. I said once Taylor Feel Pavlik's Power, he'll lose his heart & will breakdown & eventually will give up.
     
  3. Scar

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    We'll see about that, if Taylor is the type to breakdown then he wouldn't have had the patience to beat someone like Hopkins twice. We'll see what will happen and I doubt Pavlik's power will be too much for Taylor to handle either.
     
  4. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and after the 29th it will stay that way:yep
     
  5. Thor

    Thor ESB's King of Cool Full Member

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    Your anticipation of Countdown to Pacquiao and Barrera II after the Taylor victory has clouded your judgement.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Clearly.
     
  7. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He doesnt have to hurt him to outpoint him.
     
  8. madjabber

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  9. bachatu

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    I object to item #8. Necessarily Miranda doesn't hit harder than Taylor. There is no evidence of this. In addition, I believe Miranda never really hit Pavlik flush because he was fighting going back most of the time and on the ropes. In addition, he seemed to be drained from even before the bell ran, miranda looked weak or like he killed himself to make weight...he looked drained.
    Im not sure if you guys saw the fight of Pavlik vs Zertuche. But Zertuche rocked pavlik in the beginning of the fight...Pavlik did look slightly wobbled a couple times but it seemed it was more from not being warmed up properly. Yes Pavlik has a chance, but at the same time, I think people are counting out Taylor way too quick. He has proven himself where as Pavlik has by what, beating Miranda? Let Pavlik beat B-Hop twice and Winky (at least by the score cards) and then I would be a bit more convinced.
    In the meanwhile, I pull for Taylor winning by close split decision or K.O.... My biggest fear of Taylor coming into this fight is his lack of following his corners instructions. Emmanual Steward knows what his fighter needs to do to win, but he cant fight for hiim... Taylor needs to listen!

    And by the way - even if Taylor ducked Miranda... i believe Taylor would ktfo Miranda. I dont think he ducked Miranda, I think he chose to fight more well known fighters: B-Hop, Winky, Kasim, Spinks. All of these guys he fought had been champions at one point in their careers
     
  10. perfume

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    Power is power but chins are another story. Taylor never been down in the pro's or amateurs but Pavlik been down THREE times so who chin is better.

    Pavlik in my opinion will be a tough fight for Taylor but I think Taylor has fought the better comp...I don't think Pavlik could beat Hopkins twice or draw with Wright..



    Hell, I think Stewart other middleweight Andy Lee can beat Pavlik....by KO!
     
  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    You can't always go with the Fighter A, Fighter B, and Fighter C equation. And saying Andy Lee KO's Kelly Pavlik is really pushing it. Lee is good, but still very untested and not yet in his prime.
     
  12. bachatu

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    My point exactly.
     
  13. perfume

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    And Pavlik has been tested how?!?!?!

    Pavlik is a puncher-boxer while Lee is a boxer-puncher...I will always go with the boxer-puncher first, what if the guy you hit doesn't go anywhere, you'll need a plan B..

    Lee never been down either.
     
  14. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    man taylor is gonna get knocked the **** out. I you can't be trying to get a guy back to basics or work on his motivation before a big fight. You have to be proactive and get rid of these things bofore the little fights so that when the big fights come along you've already got that **** sorted.

    Sun Tzu said it best "Win first, Fight later". When you have to make big changes to your preparation before a fight you've already lost.
     
  15. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I have a far better question....does anyone remember the last time a guy was badly being called out by his own trainer for lack of focus and motivation? Cause I have never seen a guy get dogged the way emanuel was calling him out in the spinks fight. And he was still **** talking him in the HBO special. I mean not overretly but the comments about him only focusing for two hours a day. you don't here that **** coming from trainers very often.