After Watch the Taylor/Pavlik Countdown...

I will add this to my previous point. This fight is taylor's to lose. He has the speed, power, athletism and petigree to win this fight. But if he's got no fight left in him then he's ****ed. Because kelly is not puffed up WW.

I will also add this. I will not be suprized if kelly get hurt by taylor in this fight. I know that a lot of people on here have been talking about the way he took miranda's punches as evidence that he has a great chin. I don't feel that that fight told the whole story because 1) miranda looked wieght dained and thus didn't look like he had his usual sting, 2) Kelly saw all the punches that hit him coming in that fight and 3) miranda was constantly on the back foot.

I think that jermaine has the ability to fight going backwards. will come in in-shape and has the ability to hit pavlik with shots that he doesn see coming. so I wouldn;t be suprised to see him get hurt.


But I'm still predicting a jermaine lose dude to an accumulation of bad habbit outside of the ring that are just not going to be solved by fight time.

 

Miranda did hit Pavlik flush more than once during their fight.

 

Hopkins does not have the style to bother Taylor though, Pavlik does. Obviously Hopkins is a level above, but this no comparison for 'mentality breakdowns' when Hopkins doesn't have what would particularly 'bug' Taylor, which in this case, it is constant pressure.

 

If miranda's wild punches could bust pavlik up i can see taylor's accuracy along with his handspeed could be too much for pavlik,all pavlik has over taylor is probaly strength and punching power.

This fight could end up looking like mayweather vs corrales,taylor has a very good defense and pavlik is there to be hit and he's never faced anybody in his career that has the skills that taylor has.

I think this could be a easy fight for taylor,because how many times we seen a pressure fighter who has devastating punching power get exposed by a better overall fighter with greater skills,i question that win against a weight drained miranda,but pavlik won,but taylor is no miranda.

 

Taylor CAN win but only if he has suddenly decided to do what he hasn't done in his past 5 fights i.e. listen to Steward, clean up his horrible technical flaws etc

Kelly is simple - what you see, is what you get. He is big, strong, powerful, tenacious and brutal. That is what you get for 12 rounds, no fancy dressing, just in your face.

Kelly appears to train hard. He runs the bleachers, hills etc Not sure on his gym work but he does some caveman **** like sledgehammers, flipping tires etc

I'm pumped for this fight. Kelly of Miranda should beat Taylor of Spinks. Kelly potential is more maxed out than Taylors though. Taylor has spent an entire career not performing like his ability allows him to. Pavlik knows what he has and uses it.

 

uh, its called miranda was not able to tee off on him like miranda did with his other oppenents. pavlik backed him up and gave him no room, that was mirandas weakness. miranda could not set up his shots, he was too worried about having no room and getting blasted by pavlik. Taylor will be a different story however, and i believe will knock pavlik out.

 

1) First of all, Miranda did land flush and he snapped Kelly's head back. However, he still kept coming forward and Miranda only landed 22%.
2) Miranda was unable to generate power, because HE WAS BEING PUSHED BACKWARDS. Pavlik is a bigger MW than Miranda... The weight excuse is BS.
3) Pavlik had a bloody nose, his eyes were wide-open. Did you see the fight? I agree Pavlik does not have the resume of Taylor, but as I said before, neither did Taylor before B-Hop.
4) Taylor is going into this fight with a chip on his shoulder. He feels he needs to take Pavlik's head off. Big mistake.. Pavlik's kind of fight. He looked hungry. Taylor does not. Pavlik = KO = rd7. Same as Miranda.

 

People have the same expectations of Pavlik as they did with Miranda, Trinidad and Tyson during his comeback. They see a big puncher mowing over his compeititon.
They're blinded by the fact that the best boxer he has faced is probably Bronco McKart, who is a C level boxer at best. Pavlik looks like a giant killer, but for the most part, these type of blue collar fighters that come straight forward and are conditioned well, get taken apart by the top level guys. Taylor certainly possesses those type of skills, but does he have the heart to hang in there with a gutsy guy who isnt going to lay down? My gut says yes, and he will earn some respect by grinding out an exciting fight.

 

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Taylor has speed, but he has it in short burst only, Just like Judah. They're not Pac relentless speed & PBF cat-like speed. I don't know what Skills Taylor has other than his Jab. He can't even win Clearly against smaller & feather fisted Spinks.

Pavlik is not as fast as Taylor but he is as relentless as Pac & Cotto. He goes for the kill when he smells blood. Pavlik also has a longer arms & will exploit any Taylor mistakes.

Here's how I see the fight. Pavlik will be the one coming forward, Taylor backing up Flipping his Jab with occasional right. Kelly makes the Jab miss then counter strt Right, BOOM!!! Wobbled Taylor... Kelly goes for the Kill... Taylor on the ropes... BOOM!! Another srt Right followed by Left Hook... Taylor Down... Game Over!!!

 

omoney - i believe that quote by sun tzu is basically saying this: fight only when you absolutely have to, try to win without fighting first. have you even read the book 'the art of war'?

 

the funny thing about these pavlik nuthuggers scar is that they think pavlik wont get any return fire and not be rattled himself. bunch of taylor haters in here. taylor by ko

 

UNDER-rated?? Hah - there is a REASON he has been facing light-hitting fighters from lower weight classes since Hopkins rocked him - and Hopkins wasn't exactly the Earnie Shavers of middleweights, either!

Pavlik is gonna DESTROY this HBO hype job, and indeed show what many of us suspect - Taylor doesn't take a hard MIDDLEweight punch. Hell, he seems to have a bit of trouble with light-hitting WELTERweights!

 

I have to agree that thrughout JT's career he has been facing lite hitting opponents..that;s a fact...yet he took BHop's best.....which is the stronger puncher he has face in the last 5 fights..which is not saying a lot but BHop had enough pop to KD Tarver...

 

wow, so pavliks straight right hand is better than hopkins? who exactly has pavlik beaten with his straight right? Let me tell you hopkins beat with his:

tito - undefeated top 5 pound for pound at time
glenn johnson - undefeated middleweight (if you even watched hopkins at this point)
winky wright - top ten pound for pound
tarver - undisputed light heavy champion of the world who just took out roy

you do know that with age power is the last thing to go right? and that hopkins ages really well? so dont give me that 'hopkins was old ****' either. hopkins still has a HARD MIDDLE WEIGHT PUNCH that TAYLOR TOOK EXTREMLY WELL. hater