After Watch the Taylor/Pavlik Countdown...

Will you stop cutting and pasting the one argument you have when talking about Taylor? Hope you aren't too crushed when you have to kiss that avatar goodbye.

 

lol, that is funny thor. the guy cant even think up his own arguments, he has to copy and paste his own prolly cause he cant remember his own rubbish.

 

He'll start that streak next Saturday. Manny can't stop the inevitable...

Pavlik by TKO, round 8 :yep

 

Chins are chins and no one can say that Taylor has faced all light-hitter throughtout his career. Pavlik has been down THREE times as a pro..



Number of Times down:

Pavlik: 3
Taylor: 0

It's simple mathmatics ladies and gentlemen.

 

if you are counting against bronco Mckart please dont. that was a bull**** knockdown and shouldnt have been one. i remember watchgin that fight on VS and saying how much bs it was.

 

Hey, he's a boxers. He's responsible for not being in a position to get a bs knockdown...But Zuniga and Berburch DROPPED him, and those were no BS knockdowns either.


Matter of fact, Zuniga dropped him in the first round!!!

 

Yes I have read the art of War. Have you? And how might I ask you do you win without fighting. By making yourself unbeatable, so that no one will fight you because they have no hope of winning. And how do you make yourself unbeatable? By being so prepared for a fight that if anyone ever fought you they would have no hope of winning (i.e. they will have lost before the fight even begins....hence "win first fight later") Believe me that quote is 100% about preparation. Its about being so well prepared for a fight that you've already won before you even step into the ring. It most certainly is not about only fighting when you have to.

Like in the DLH PBf build up when PBF was talking about his preparation, he said "The hard work has already been done. He's already beat. All we have to do now is fight." This is the kinda **** that Sun Tzu is talking about.

It certainly is not about avoiding a fight.

 

'how do you win without fighting?' - simple - you see in sun tszu art of war the actual quote goes like this
Therefore One hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful. War is of vital importance to the state and should not be engaged carelessly
read carefully the second sentence. siezing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful. in other words - this would apply to a fighter who would give his most dangerous opponent a disease so he pulls out and never fights again so the fighter would win the belt without actually fighting. you are pretty dumb dude. boxing is not 'war' as hopkins likes to call it. true war has no rules, boxing does.

 

now those i consider knockdowns, when they actually DROP and HURT him.

 

Brutal KO? We'll see

 

i think manny was lewis's trainer when he got starched by mccall, but i'm sure some of his fighters have lost since then. manny trains a lot of boxers, we only hear about the high profile ones.

 

Sorry, the quote I'm talking about is actually from the the "Book of the Samurai" by Yamamoto Tsunetomo. And the passage goes like this:

The phrase, ''Win first, fight later, '' can be summed up in the two words, "Win beforehand." The resourcefulness of times of peace is the military preparation for times of war.

So ya its not from the Art of War. Sorry my bad. but as I recall the whole "make yourself unbeatable" theme that is central here is one of the themes in the art of war.

But why did you think I was talking about the quote you quoted cause clearly thats a different idea all together?

 

i would say you just staked your reputation on that statement, but.............what reputation?

 

speaking of wwf, how was that iron sheik video you bought?

 

Anything can happen in a fight and circumstances can be different depending on who fights who...styles make fights and can brake some or make some fighters. However, taking facts in to the picture... I think Taylor has been more successful and has proven more at this point in his career. People are counting out Taylor by KO without taking into account that he has defeated or gone even with some of the ones who are considered to be the best in boxing: Benard Hopkins & Winky Wright.

Ok - We know Pavlik has KO'd guys in an impressive and exciting fashion--but this has been against who? A rated or elite? mmm no. Miranda got his reputation for beating two known guys from the U.S. Before that, he got his impressive K.O record from fighting in Colombia and south america, which we all have seen before, colombians coming out with 22 - 0 20 ko record. In addition to this, we all know that Miranda had been knocked down before a couple of times, so his chin was never considered to be granite or iron. Taylor will be the most physical, strongest and toughest fighter Pavlik has ever faced. How will he do? We don't know until Sept. 29th.

Personally, I think the fight will be competitive, but I think Pavlik is not ready for Taylor at this point in his career. Taylor is at another level and you will see that come September 29th.