after watching the ggg-rubio fight again, I have reassessed....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by cereal monotony, Oct 20, 2014.


  1. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    Ok, lets talk reality.

    Golovkin's handlers have habitually put him in the ring with "C+" or worse opposition. This past weekend's mismatch being an example of the "or worse" part of that equation. IF he's so good then WHY haven't they put him in the ring with someone from the "A" list? And please, save that "everyone is ducking him" CRAP. That's bull**** and everyone knows it.
     
  2. Muff

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    Are we talking A list from his division or from the division above? There's no one A list from MW other than Cotto, who people say Golovkin is being a coward for calling out being that he's smaller. So if that's the case it's a lose lose for him-all depends on how what view you take. I'm not going to say everyone is ducking him but there are obvious people who avoided him in that they had too much to lose or had possible bigger paydays against someone else (Ndam, Geale for that matter). And regardless of how you may feel towards him, Geale isn't that shitty of a fighter. Being that him and Ndam are essentially the same fighter, I could easily see Geale giving the same kind of problems Ndam gave Quillin, barring any KD's (maybe one to be fair). While they have had a hard time getting that A list opposition, they are doing the right thing by cornering who they need to to force a fight. It's only a matter of time. Am I done waiting? Yes. But I'm not the one getting in the ring with him. People are somewhat hesitant about facing him whether or not you believe it.
     
  3. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG is unbeatable from 154-168, until proven otherwise. But, no one wants to fight him. All are scared...
     
  4. mrdoctor

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  5. Cisco Route

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    Andre Ward is unbeatable from 154-168, until proven otherwise. But the Triple Duck doesn't want to fight him. The Triple Duck is scared...
     
  6. Muff

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    I hope you realize how bad that sounds. Surely you realize what that statement just said.
     
  7. Cisco Route

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    So you would address this nonsense to me but not to the idiot from where it originally came?

    Don't look now but your ignorance is showing...
     
  8. Muff

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    It's actually not the same. While I'm not necessarily agreeing with his statement, with it regarding Golovkin, he is, obviously, in the middle of 154 and 168. Ward, however, is at 168 while still fighting people two divisions lower than him. It would be the same if someone said Golovkin is unbeatable from 160 to 147. I could imagine the slack you would give such a statement that he's picking on JMW's and WW's. See how bad it looks when there's two divisions lower than you that you are fighting? It would have been better for you to say Ward is unbeatable from 160 to 175. Why you didn't say that?...I'm not sure. Don't talk about ignorance.
     
  9. Cisco Route

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    There is Qullin and Lara.


    Lara called him out and Triple Duck's people claimed he wasn't "on their radar". WTF? How in the hell can Lara not be "on their radar" but TOMATO CANs like Rubio are? How in the hell does that work?


    The Golovtards around here want to claim that Triple Duck is the best 160lb'er of the last 30 years. Well, lets talk about a true ATG, Sugar Ray Robinson. When SRR was a contender @ 147 and avoided by the top guys in the division, what did he do? Did he go on a Bum Of The Month tour like Triple Duck? NO. He fought *middleweights* until he got his shot @ the 147lb title.

    Triple Duck's advocates want us to believe that he's great. Fine. If that is indeed true then Triple Duck should do what *other* great fighters have done - seek out the greatest challenges. If nobody on the "A" list @ 160 wants to fight then he should fight Ward. Lets not pretend as if he didn't sign a contract to fight Baby Chavez @ 168. So, isn't it a bit suspicious that Triple Duck has no problems fighting Baby Chavez @ 168 but does his best Hellen Keller impersonation when the subject of Andre Ward is brought up?

    This guy is nothing but H Y P E until he fights and beats somebody with a PULSE. I suspect the reason why they keep putting him in front of these various BUMs, STIFFs, TOMATO CANs, No Hopers and NEVER WEREs is because he wont look so dominant and seemingly unbeatable once he's put in with a live body.

    Like I said before, a slick boxer is going to be this guy's Kryptonite.
     
  10. Rock0052

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    Good ol serial lobotomy, whose troll threads always deliver what they promise.
     
  11. Gneus7

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    Nobody is beating him at 160 for a while.
     
  12. kirk

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    Your first sentence was right.

    Your second was so ridiculous n absurd i quit reading.

    Cotto and canelo dont last the distance with G.
     
  13. lester proctor

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    He signed the Chavez contract cause it was offered to him, for big money. Ward OTOH has offered nothing, you frustrated imbecile
     
  14. Muff

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    I'm not even going to address most of what you regarding SRR and GGG claiming to be great. I'm not one of those claiming what you stated so don't bring that up. He's never said anything along those lines personally, it's all his team so that was a pointless argument. Going to still disregard most of what you said as it's irrelevant as all hell. Don't bring up what other people have said regarding GGG. I'm not claiming anything along those lines so don't bring up those arguments.

    As for Quillin and Lara: first off, Quillin is not an A list MW, despite what you believe. Going to leave it at that. And Lara isn't a MW even though I wouldn't mind GGG fight him, being that I don't think Lara has enough to keep him off and will probably be stopped-and that it would satisfy me to see you guys shut up about all this slick bull****. And why would he be on their radar? You guys keep saying for him to stop fighting JMW's, so why should he venture to look and yet another one-because you guys think he may actually be a threat? What I find most noble about GGG so far is his willingness to call out fight ON AIR, immediately post-fight; none of this twitter bull****.

    And again for Ward, I don't know how many times you have to get this **** drilled into your head, why wouldn't he sign Chavez when he SENT A ****ING CONTRACT! Ward can claim all he wants that GGG is ducking him, but until that offer is sent, then it's all talk. You claim Ward is A side, so he should do the A side move and be the one to initiate an offer, if he was really able to fight. You must rate Golovkin high if you immediately want him to go to 168 without testing the waters first against the second best fighter. This might be the last time I respond to you because this is getting really ****ing annoying that you constantly bring up corollary arguments to justify something I've never said and your insistence on spewing the same **** when you have no further room to discuss anything intelligently.
     
  15. Lady Girl

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    its like tyson said, "everyone has a plan until they get hit"