after Whitaker, who is the greatest of past 20 years

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Try Corrales, Castillo x 2, Hatton, Chavez, Judah for five.
     
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    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't even imagine Pernell bothering to fight a roiding 10 year past his prime fighter like Paz or a 5 years past his prime fighter like Virgil Hill.

    I CAN imagine Roy Jones not fighting the best lightheavyweight of his time (bar himself) though :good
     
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    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And to answer the thread topic, the answer is Julio Cesar Chavez.
     
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  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Are you referring to Daruisz Micha whatsisname?

    :rofl

    Never saw him fight, so am unable to comment.
     
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    Paulie Malignaggi
    Junior Witter
    Sven Ottke
    Enzo Maccarinelli

    Paper champions all
     
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    If your trying to say Mayweather is better than Whitaker/Jones than I disagree completely.

    Whitaker holds wins over Azumah Nelson, Buddy McGirt x2, Julio Cesar Chavez and Julio Cesar Vasquez. Aswell as quality wins over Roger Mayweather, Greg Haugen and Jose Luis Ramirez (should be x2). In my opinion Whitaker's opponents far out shadow those of Mayweather, in many of the performances he was more dominant aswell.
     
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    He was ****:-(
     
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    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    In terms of ability, I rank Sweet Pea even ahead of Roy Jones Jr. Nobody was ever as ellusive as Whitaker, and he made some great fighters look average. Chavez and Nelson in particular.

    I would say Roy Jones Jr has to come in second because he does have two quality and underrated wins in Hopkins and Toney, only you kind of get the feeling his career could have been so much more. The two devastating knockout losses do hurt that so called auro of invincibility he once had though.
     
  10. DINAMITA

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    How about try them for none? Well, maybe one at the most, Castillo was quality at the weight at the time PBF fought him (and he should've ****ing lost by a clear margin the 1st time anyway!). And in all of the other fights, PBF was a huge favourite to win. Corrales was brave and a good fighter, but never top quality. Hatton was poor at welterweight, that wasn't a live fight despite PBF's good performance on the night. Chavez same as Corrales, and Judah? The same guy who got beat by Baldomir and KO'd by Tszyu? Quite talented but never top quality.

    Jones fought fellow HOFers Toney & Hopkins in their prime, Whitaker fought JC Superstar, Azumah Nelson, and the young lion De La Hoya. Which of your 5 was of the same calibre???

    Silly boy.
     
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    Virgil was robbed in Germany, he wasn't past his prime.

    I also can imagine Sweat Pea not fighting Camacho, Meldrik Taylor and Edwin Rosario. EASILY.
     
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    **** stain. Pac is running now from JMM rematch for another 4 years :blurp
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He clearly lost to Dariusz and if you had seen him in his prime you would have known he was past it by the time he fought Dariusz, to say nothing of Jones.


    When was he ever in the same weight division as Camacho? When he was pro for a year? Yeah, what a duckage. When was he ever in the same weight division as Meldrick Taylor? After 1992, you mean after he got KO'ed by Crisanto Espana? Yeah Whitaker should have fought him then.

    As for Rosario, he tried the novel idea of fighting the guy who actually knocked him the **** out to unify the titles. Novel idea I know.

    Michelczewski was the elephant in the light heavyweight room for a good five years and both he and Jones didn't have the balls to make the fight happen.
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Erm, no he didn't. Anyone who thinks RJJ fought the very best fighters in each of the divisions he fought in better think again.

    At middleweight he fought a green Hopkins about 2 years before he became a champion. Malinga and Tate. He didn't even fight any other champions so it can't be said he fought the best middleweights at that time.

    At supermiddle he did fight Toney but at that time this was the hottest division in boxing. You had Benn, Eubank, Collins as well as young rising stars Calzaghe and McClellan.

    Light heavyweight - DM is all that needs to be said

    Heavyweight - Ruiz the best at heavyweight? Don't make me laugh.

    The only divisions you an argue he fought the best fighter in are middleweight with hindsight and supermiddle. But the were numerous top fighters in those divisions he could have fought but did not.

    Whitaker is tops P4P in my opinion in the last 20 years. With Jones a very close second.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

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    DM would have probably refused to travel, and Roy would probably have had concerns of dodgy judging in Germany, with damn good reason.

    You have to KO your opponent to win on points over there.