Against The Grain - Your Score Cards

I have watched Hopkins v Calzaghe many times, and I firmly believe Hopkins won the fight. I don't believe in this current trend of automatically awarding rounds for "workrate". Ineffective aggression vs impenetrable and excellent defence does not = a round won by the aggressor simply for moving his arms around a lot. Hitting gloves, forearms and fresh air are not scoring shots. Hopkins was lethargic due to lack of stamina at his age, but the limited amount of crisp, clean, effective work that he did do was enough to edge it by a point over the piece IMO. Calzaghe barely landed a clean shot the entire night. That's just not enough to win a boxing match over 12 rounds, no matter if he did all the running and forced the fight or not.

We risk turning boxing from the Sweet Science to a fitness contest if we allow the artisan to triumph over the artist!

 

:admin Anyone who goes with that one should log out never to return. 118-110 Sweet Pea!

 

ive scored afew weird scores but i normally pick the iwnner but just by a wider margin

i thought Winky actually beat Hopkins when i watched it live

 

I had Shavers beating Ali 144-141. Harder and cleaner shots than Ali's flurries (which often just caught gloves).

I agree with Dina about Hopkins winning against Calzaghe. Cleaner shots rather than Calzaghe's flurries. I don't buy that Compubox ****.

 

I had Hopkins beating Calzaghe by 1 point.

 

Hopkins dropped Calzaghe in round 1. Since Hopkins stayed on his feet throughout, and was not dominated in any round, he only needed to win 5 rounds after the 1st to win. It is hard to believe that more people do not have him doing just that.

I don't think Barrera lost any of his fights with Morales, though a draw could be argued in their 2nd.

George Foreman won at least 3, if not 4, out of 9 rounds before stopping Michael Moorer in the 10th.

Marquez was winning handily when he stopped Diaz a few nights ago.

That Jermain Taylor won both fights against Hopkins, and somehow looked like the worse figher while doing so.

That Barrera nearly won his rematch with Pacquiao.

 

What are you nuts?

 

I have only seen Hopkins-Calzaghe once and that was live. I need to sit through it again, as boring as it was.

 

i agree - but i also think the same about the Holy - Lewis fight. Lewis by so far its almost comical.

but i guess the thread was giving examples not true belief....at least i hope not

 

I should add that I agree with Rekcutnevets, I don't think Barrera lost any of the three fights with Morales (one of the main reasons I will always rank MAB slightly higher p4p).

 

Ali was shot or borderline shot by then, but still, I felt Shavers deserved the win and to have the honor of being the HW champ at one point.

I've read an interview where Shavers said he agreed with the decision.

Strange, because I felt I was being a tad generous to Ali with giving him 6 rounds.

When I've mentioned it before, some have agreed, while others felt Ali deserved the win.

 

I had Wright/Hopkins a draw.

I had Toney beating Tiberi by a point.