Against which brother does haye have more of a chance to win?

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  1. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know alot feel haye has no chance against either but please vote!
    But just one thing forget for a second about wlads chin !
    i know it plays a big part but just look at their strenghts like power, defense
    technick
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I know people think he has a bigger chance against wlad then vitali because of wlads chin, but it could very well be vitali, he has become slower and less powerfull through the years, isnt to good at dealing with great speed and movement, you can just see him coming in the ring slowly tapping haye with his soft jab then haye goes inside punches him and moves away, he is faster then vitali and terefore will cause him problems.
    On the other hand wlad, has awful inside game and his chin is china, his whole game is about protecting the thing, so we saw when sam peter patheticly tried bobbin and weavin he had a little bit of succes that night, haye is great inside and lands bombs fast. on the other hand wlads jab will cause the fight to go his pace and he can keep haye away with power, and thus win rounds easily. both guys are capable of dropping eachother with their power.
     
  3. BobDigi5060

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  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    with cesare-borgia's points in mind I still have to go for Wlad.
    After what I've seen from the fighters 'till now I can't see Haye having more than a punchers chance, and then Wlads chin will be the difference between the brothers.

    Vitali can take bombs from much harder punchers than Haye, and is still whooping his opponents in incredible fasion.
    Wlad would jab Haye's face into a bloody mess until he lands a huge straight or left hook, but Haye might catch him with a looping right hand.
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad is more stationary, has the far weaker chin and has slower reflexes. Makes it up with tight defense, crisp powerful punching and fast hands though.
     
  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye vs. Wlad is a close fight imo. I think that they almost match up 50/50. Both have dodgey chins, power is close, reach and experience Wlad, speed and heart Haye. Infact I think a fight with either Klitschko would be good but that is the one I want to see most. A fight with Vitali is a tough one to call because although we know Vitali can still fight he has not been tested since his come back.
     
  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd like to mention that Vitali is a much more intimidating character and a lot harder to break than Wlad as well. I know Wlad has shown more mental resolve under Steward but I thinj he can still be broken in tough fight. Vitali on the other hand is the master of the mind games and pure steel in that department.
     
  8. gooners!!

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    Haye's chances against VK lie in the fact VK is not as good on the front foot, as he is as a counter puncher, and he would probably be the one coming foward here, now whilst Haye might win a few rounds using his legs, darting in and out, I dont know how how successful he would be at landing, as VK is very effective at leaning back away from punches, that said, I anticipate Haye would start to tire due to having to moving so much, that VK would be consistent, catch upto him, zero in with that right hand and knock him out.

    Haye might try and throw a few counters, but he would have to be very careful he did not throw at the wrong time, because of VK's herky jerky style, which can be more difficult to time.

    Against Wlad his best ticket would be to offset his jab and take advantage of his somewhat robotic style by moving, then he would have to try and attack Wlad whilst he is in transition from being reset by Haye, that would be his best best bet against Wlad, if he stood infront, tried to draw leads and counter, I think Wlad would neutralize him.
     
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  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    vlad - toilet paper chin

    vitali - iron chin
     
  11. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    There was a good discussion of this in one of the other threads. Wlad's chin is much more crackable, but Vitali's probably got a better style for Haye.

    I can't really see him beating either, though.
     
  12. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    I'd say he has no chance versus Vitali and 5% versus wlad(lucky punch)

    Haye is not a defensive master, in fact his defense is pretty shaky. He isnt very good on his feet either. Wlad will have little problem timing him and will control him with the jab. Haye has one chance land that lopping over hand right over wlads jab.
     
  13. gooners!!

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    I think he has in terms of, he could make VK look a little uncomfortable early by using his legs, offsetting VK, but here is the thing, VK's greatest asset IMO, lies in his consistency, and that is where I think he would win. VK is a very robust, has an excellent chin, good power, and he's consistent with his game plan, now I think that would grind Haye down and he would get knocked out.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    vitali must start showing his age soon so i pick him.
     
  15. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    both fights would be interesting for me cause, haye keeps his hands so low and sometimes he gets hit with jabs that he shouldnt get hit with. and both wlad and vitali have very good jabs. its hard for me to see how haye gets past the long jab of the klitchkos. But if somehow he does i see haye landing some big shots and imo against wlad might even knock him out