against who (atg) would you favor marciano to beat?

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  1. Johnstown

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    Bowe at his best may have had atg skills...but...
     
  2. bodhi

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    John L. Sullivan: Depends on the rules, Marciano´s, Marciano UD, Sullivan´s, Sullivan by KO somewhere past round 20

    Bob Fitzsimmons: I think Fitz has a serious chance of drawing Marciano in, hurting him and finish him, remember Sailor Tom Sharkey? However, most of the time Marciano wins.

    jim jefries: depends on the ruleset. Marciano´s, Marciano by UD due to his higher workerate. Jeffs, Jeffries by late stoppage, somewhere beyond round 20.

    jack johnson: Pick´em. Johnson may spoil Marciano to a boring UD or Marciano may outwork him to a decision. Johnson´s rules, it´s Johnson by stoppage.

    Sam Langford: Langford could finish him of, awesome offensive fighter, however against Marciano his lackluster defense is a big liability. McVey who was also a pressure fighter but more limited than Marcianowas able to take it to Langford. I think Rocky could too. And would.

    Harry Wills: Won´t judge, lack of footage for this.

    jack dempsey: Dempsey at his best has a serious chance to knock Rocky out early. I think I stick with that.

    Max Schmeling: Marciano by KO late

    joe louis: Louis TKO in the midrounds

    floyd patterson: Marciano midround KO

    Ezzard Charles: we had that

    sonny liston: Liston by late round TKO

    Muhammad Ali: 60s Ali loses, 70s Ali wins. I think 60s Ali was too fragile and vulnerable and he wouldn´t be able to avoid Marciano for 15 rounds. 70s Ali had the toughness and durability, the will to do anything to win. He would clinch a lot, frustrate the hell out of Marciano, a bit like Ali-Frazier II.

    george foreman: Marciano mid round TKO, around round 10-11

    joe frazier: Marciano by late round TKO

    larry holmes: Holmes by UD

    evander holyfield: Marciano TKO 13-15

    mike tyson: Tyson early KO

    lennox lewis: Lewis UD

    Wlad Klitschko: Marciano by midround KO
     
  3. :lol::lol::rofl
     
  4. well i think that bowe with eddie futch in his corner would destroy corbett,tunney,jefries,patterson,charles,walcott, he would destroy schmeling, he would beat marciano,HE MIGHT WELL DEFEAT LARRY HOLMES, SIMPLY CHECKs HOLMES VS SPOON. he would give good fights to any legend.
     
  5. RockysSplitNose

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    Hey my man Combat!! What's happenin? :good See you still not shrugged off you're obsessive Marciano-hate campaign :lol::lol:

    I guess you better get your "it is a fact!!"s ready and your "he was slow like the tortoises" ready :lol:

    BRACE YOURSELF HERE GOES!!

    jim jefries: Marciano unanimous decision win
    jack johnson: Marciano KO late probably somewhere around 12 rounds
    jack dempsey:Marciano by late stoppage or points - Marciano is going down in this one though
    gene tunney: Marciano by stoppage maybe 10 rounds
    joe louis:marciano by ko 14th round :D bit specific again Marciano is going down again in this one
    sonny liston:Marciano by stoppage 10 rounds - Marciano seeing the canvas again in this
    george foreman:Marciano by stoppage 11 rounds - Rock pays a visit to the deck at some point in this
    joe frazier:Marciano by stoppage 9 rounds
    larry holmes:Marciano by late KO maybe 12 or 13 rounds
    evander holyfield:Marciano by late stoppage maybe 11 rounds
    mike tyson:Marciano by stoppage 10 rounds
    lennox lewis: the young 227 Lewis with his speed of youth - Marciano by KO anywhere from 7 to 11 rounds - Rock might see canvas again in this one
    floyd patterson:Marciano by ko in 6 rounds
    riddick bowe:Marciano by stoppage in maybe 9 rounds

    WHAT ABOUT MUHAMMAD ALI?? - Rocky Marciano by unanimous decision both men might see the canvas in this one but no one (other than maybe Dempsey :huh) is kayoing Muhammad Ali

    :happy:happy:happy:hi:
     
  6. hahahahahaa lmao man, you forgot superman, it would be close but marciano would tko him late in the round 135:hi:
     
  7. turpinr

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    superman would crumble eventually:lol:
     
  8. Stevie G

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    Anyone from John Sullivan to Jimmy Braddock,with the possible exception of Jack Johnson. Charles,Walcott (whom we already know about) Patterson,Johansson,Spinks L & M,Douglas,and Rahman.
     
  9. turpinr

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    i agree steve.saying rocky would beat the likes of foremen, liston, lewis, frazier and tyson is phoooooeeeeyy
     
  10. bodhi

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    I think he can beat Frazier and Foreman. Marciano is more two-fisted than Frazier, has more power I think and is slightly more durable. I think Marciano can get too Frazier late, hurting him and TKOing him. With Foreman is the thing that I don´t know if MArciano can take Foreman´s punches. If he can´t it Foreman early. If he can, he drags Foreman into deep water, tiring him and stops him in the midround. I give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
  11. janitor

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    Taking each name in turn.
    Looking at the way that Tom Sharkey was able to neutralize Corbetts boxing ability with pressure I have to favour Marciano.

    Tough call and probably depends on the distance as well as the tactics Jeffries uses. I would tend to say Marciano in a shorter fight and Jeffries in a longer fight.

    I have been reading a lot of acounts of Johnson vs pressure fighters recently and I think he had issues with them. For this reason I am saying Marciano.

    Dempsey was faster off the starting blocks and this would probably be decisive.

    Marciano exceled against technical boxers and would probably break Tunney down just like he did Walcott Charles LaStarza etc.

    Louis probably bludgeons his brains out coming in.

    Liston probably bludgeons his brains out coming in.

    Foreman probably bludgeons his brains out coming in.

    A close fight, but Marcianos two fisted attack, right hand and better chin probably carry the day.

    Holmes can't keep Marciano off him and sucumbs late.

    Marciano outworks and batters Holyfield for a late tko.

    Tyson was faster off the starting blocks and this would probably be decisive.

    Hard to pick. Call it a 50/50 type fight.

    Marciano's power cracks Floyds chin sooner or later.

    Bowes porous defence and habit of fighting on the inside play into Marcianos hands.
     
  12. a guy who give any chance to marciano against foreman deserves zero credibility.
    frazier was faster than rocky, bigger than rocky, he had longer reach than rocky, he had better defence than rocky, he did more pressure than rocky,he was better fighter than rocky,and very possibly he was stronger than rocky, foreman did handle frazier like a kid, imagines that would do foreman with rocky who weighed 185 pounds...and no way marciano was more durable, he was tested against little cruiser like walcott and still he knocked down rocky, frazier was down by bigger and stronger men. and still foreman could not ko him by the count ,
     
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  14. janitor

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    Johnson is a hard pick and I have somtimes favoured him over Marciano.

    Recently I have been reading acounts of his fights with Marvin Hart and Sam Langford, who both seem to have taken his game away to some extent and given him problems.

    That has to be weighed against his sucess vs the smaller Burns and less agresive McVea.

    My other picks have now been posted.
     
  15. El Bujia

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    :lol:You are such a tool.