Agree or disagree?

The ultimate insult in a fantasy fight prediction is:

KO1

If sombody makes that prediction, then they almost certainly havn't thought about it for more than 5 seconds!

 

....except for tyson vs norton. that really IS a KO 1 :thumbsup

 

Well there is a difference between the likes of James Toney , Reggie Johnson , Oliver McCall , David Tua , Marlon Starling , Miguel Angel Gonzalez and Jorge Castro to the likes of Emanuel Steward's disciples , isn't it ?

 

That there are indeed fighters who are more glass jawed than others.
And genetics is one of the lesser factors.
Simple training such as sparing in which the head actually gets hit and grows stronger as a result , although damaging to the brain and the spine have an effect on the jaw/chin.
Nutrition has it's role as usual . Calcium etc will not do harm.
Sparing also teaches one how to absorb , avoid , slip and recover from a punch.
Also there are methods to reinforce the neck muscles , etc.
Steroids and IGF do their thing too.
Genetics still has its role of course but it is overrated as usual.
I think some expert dentists / physicians can do marvels with a man's jaw/chin structure and strength , reinforcing it with many of implants/structures etc. Disgusting and unpleasant but true.

 

How do you think Patterson Liston would have went down if Patterson gave him a shot a couple of years earlier when Liston was ripping through the competition?

 

I watched a video of Chuvalo explaining how he has been able to take punches from huge punchers at HW and I find myself puzzled. Even though some guys can take hellacious shots in the ring I often picture them 10 or 15 years later and it is usually not a pretty sight. Then u got Chuvalo who's talking fine and seems to have his brains okay. Determination, grit and will have a huge impact on a fighter "chin" but ultimately I believe that some guys are more "gifted" in a sense that they can take punches they didn't see coming fine when it would put most of the fighters flat on their back.

 

some people are more impartial to pain, or levels of pain than others, boxing has shown that about many tough nuts or cement heads, but I agree most if not all can be KOd by a perfect punch, perfectly placed right on the button.

 

JG ,Tony Zale a man who is a byword for courage in a courageous sport, once said he had seen," few glass jaws, but a few glass hearts".

 

Tyson's neck is smaller than Holyfield's.

 

Glass jaws, china chins whatever you want call it, are part of boxing. Punch resistance is one of a long list of variables that may be attributed to a fighter. In turn a number of factors may influence a boxer's chin, and their ability to take a punch. It seems that some fighters are more adept than others at rolling with the punch, some have a thicker neck, are not weight drained and therefore less likely to suffer a brain concussion due to lack of water and so on. I also think a fighter's chin and punch resistance can change over time. There are a lot of discussions and some arguments regarding the glass jaw terminology over on the general forum here at ESB, but at the crux of the matter I think it is a valid topic for conversation.