AIBA World Amateur Championship, who are the guys to watch?

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  1. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Are people not aware that there have been pros in amateur competition for years now (including the 2016 Olympics)? Everyone is crying now because that mediocre US talent got sparked. Nobody had a cry when amateur Usyk stopped 15-0 pro Modungo in the WSB.
     
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    Why? He faces better competition in the amateurs. I don’t think he’s that good, that Huni kid would have beat him if he didn’t have to withdrawal. Huni is Andy Ruiz with Lomachenko’s footwork.
     
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    It seems like everyone forgot that there were world level pros who took the chance of going back to the Olympics, and they had their asses handed to them.

    One highlight reel KO doesnt erase all that.
     
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    It really illuminates the US-centric focus of most boxing fans. A US prospect getting stopped, and it was reported by many to be from a ‘professional Russian boxer’. It was painted as US v Russia, corruption against the poor US kid. The Uzbek knocked him out, but nobody was crying when Torres knocked a guy out in his previous contest. How would Torres go against the six guys that the Uzbek has defeated as a ‘pro’? This issue just highlights that people don’t know about the amateur or the professional game. People get stuck on words and numbers instead of what it actually is.
     
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  5. kostya by ko

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    Thanks. I didn't know about that.
     
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  6. Limerickbox

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    Because its ridiculous for him to be competing at a level where most nations simply send their kids.
     
  7. dealt_with

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    You use kids as if that implies a lower level of competition. Cuban, Russian and Ukrainian kids have no problem beating everyone else, do we want to make excuses for US boxers? Many Eastern European and Cuban amateurs stay amateur, and are not kids.

    Jalolov is only 25, and his pro fights were against a handful of cans. When he adapts to longer fights as a pro that gives him a disadvantage in the amateur game as well, that changes his conditioning to a slower pace.
     
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  8. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not just Americans.
    Western Europe, South America, Australia, and increasingly Eastern European fighters are going pro young.

    Its still essentially college grade boxing with some anomalies.
     
  9. dealt_with

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    Pro boxing is essentially professional wrestling with some anomalies. The anomalies being amateur standouts.
     
  10. conraddobler

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    Keyshawn Davis, Ragan/Castro (whoever wins trials), Richard Torrez, Khalil Coe, and Troy Isley are realistic medal threats.

    Of course, Torrez got horrifically sparked by Jalolov but he has a good record in international competitions.
    [url]https://boxrec.com/en/amateurboxer/861066[/url]

    Coe is a freakish talent but very inexperienced.
     
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    My favorite recent pro performance of a former great amateur is from the two-time gold medalist Robeisy Ramirez.
     
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  12. dealt_with

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    Yeah totally, exceptions always make the rule. And context is never relevant.
     
  13. gogeta

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    Huni got quick hands and footwork for a heavy. He's young too. One to watch for
     
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  14. Limerickbox

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    Yeah, you do you development as a kid in the amateurs and you go pro.

    Thats the way its been for decades.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    Is the competition really "kids"?

    Jalolov is 25.

    Here's the ages of the other gold medalists:

    Zoirov - 26
    Mirzakhalilov - 24
    Cruz - 24
    Zamkovoy - 32
    Bakshi - 23
    Nurdauletov - 21
    Gadzhimagomedov - 22

    That's an average age of 24.57, not counting Jalolov.

    More specific to your argument, Jalolov's opponents were aged 26, 20, 30, and 27, which averages out 25.75.

    Looks to me like being 25 is bang on average for this tourney, but what do I know.
     
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