Aiba world championships

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  1. Serge

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    Slightly better quality version of Amankul vs Shakhsuvarly

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    Better version of Amankul's 1/4 fight against Arlen Lopez

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  2. Rock0052

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    Man, Khyznhiak is a buzzsaw. Dude was throwing with bad intentions pretty much nonstop. Thanks for the updates, Serge!
     
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  3. gmurphy

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    Is a beast at 75kg but can be outboxed, Joe ward controlled him when they met at 81kg
     
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  4. Serge

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    No problem

    He's obviously one of those very naturally strong, tough and tenacious dudes. His strength, aggression, relentlessness and toughness was impressive up at LHW but it's even more formidable down at MW. He should've been campaigning at MW all along really.

    Look at how he handled Olympic bronze medalist and now world amateur bronze medalist Kamran Shakhsuvarly in the final of the European championships earlier on this year. He totally overwhelmed him and Shakhsuvarly is a strong guy with plenty of power in either hand.

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    Shakhsuvarly against the Colombian Palacios in the 1/4 final

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    Shakhsuvarly vs Kazakhstan's Amankul in the 1/2 final

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    Both those guys are really good (Amankul obviously booked himself a place in the final against Khyznhiak) but Shakhsuvarly gave them everything they could handle and caught them with some vicious bombs.

    And Khyznhiak even gave a beast like Buatsi everything he could handle up at LHW

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  5. wifly

    wifly Active Member Full Member

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    Khyzhniaks amateur record is 503-20 according to World championships producer s. Thats quite impressive for a 22yo :duh
     
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  7. Serge

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  8. Serge

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    That's insane if true. I worry about any fighter racking up that many miles in the amateurs, let alone one his age who fights with such an aggressive style as he does. Surely that number can't be true?
     
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    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can be sure that almost everyone is lying with their record.
     
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  10. Serge

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    You're probably right. How in god's name can any 22 year old have had over 500 fight?
     
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  11. coltaine

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    Recap of today's semis:

    (SPOILERS AHEAD)

    The flyweight final is gonna be Yosbany Veitia vs. Jasurbek Lapitov. Veitia from Cuba is the favourite for gold, but he was pretty lucky to get through his semi against Tamir Galanov – the spread of scores was insane, with a 30-27, a 27-30, two 29-28s and a 28-29 – I thought 29-28 either way was reasonable. He’ll face Jasurbek Lapitov of Uzbekistan, who won an extremely ugly, scrappy UD over Inkyu Kim, two gangly guys lunging in and clinching/wrestling for most of the fight, winging power shots. Lapitov does seem to pack a punch and had Kim on the floor and wobbling on another occasion, but that’s mainly because he throws ridiculously wild hooks. Veitia is the classier fighter, and this final will probably be easier than his semi, but I don't rate Veitia so highly that an upset would be that shocking.

    The lightweight final will be Lazaro Alvarez vs. Sofiane Oumiha. Alvarez is going for his third world championship gold in a row; he’s a master boxer and dominated his semi-final against Otar Eranosyan, who was struggling with an eye injury but far too crude besides. Oumiha scraped past Dorjynambuu in an excellent back-and-forth battle – this was a repeat of their Olympic semi-final, which he also won. This is the final we were expecting and hoping for.

    The welterweight final will be Shakhram Giyasov vs. Roniel Iglesias. Losing Rio finalist Giyasov won a terrific scrap against Ablaikhan Zhussupov in a repeat of the Asian Games final. 20 year old Zhussupov impressed me and could’ve got the nod. Iglesias’ win over Abass Baroau was just as exciting; the German is absolutely relentless and still young enough to improve, but Iglesias is the better punch-picker in classic Cuban fashion and he won a split decision. Iglesias was the world champion in 2009, and Olympic champ in 2012.

    The light heavy final will be Julio Cesar La Cruz vs. Joe Ward. This division has followed the script, with the top 4 seeds making the semis. La Cruz beat Carlos Mina in a scrappy contest where both fighters lost a point at the end for dirty stuff inside. Three times European champion Joe Ward correctly won a split decision against the outsized Olympic middleweight finalist Melikuziev in another ugly bout. Neither landed a lot but Melkuziev was lunging in under Ward’s jab and missing a lot of wild shots, getting picked off every so often as he did so.

    The super heavyweight final will be Kamshybek Kunkabayev vs. Mahammadrasul Majidov. Kunkabayev bossed Cameroon’s Fokou Arsene, winning every round, getting two knockdowns, even dropping him with a jab. This was quite a fun fight even so, as Arsene clearly had power too (despite being a specialist in failure), and staggered Kunkabayev at one point. One judge had this fight 29-28 somehow lol, the rest rightfully had 30-26. I gotta say, the judging seems generally much better in this tournament than the Olympics – all this negative publicity on AIBA may be doing the trick, but maybe it’s just that the Olympics mean more and are a lot more corrupt. Kunkabayev looked good and may have a chance against two time world champion Majidov, who was too good for Aussie Joseph Goodall for two rounds, but seemed to tire and let Goodall take the third. He’ll need to pace himself better in the final.
     
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  12. wifly

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    Well, Loma's amateur record was 396-1, maybe Ukranians are including sparring as legit fights
     
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  13. Serge

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    Yeah possibly. Khytrov's supposed to have had somewhere in the region of 450-500 amateur bouts.
     
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    Finals line up

    1 Final Men's Light Fly (46-49kg) ARGILAGOS Joahnys CUB DUSMATOV Hasanboy UZB

    2 Final Men's Fly (52kg) VEITIA Yosbany CUB LATIPOV Jasurbek UZB

    3 Final Men's Bantam (56kg) YERALIYEV Kairat KAZ RAGAN Duke USA

    4 Final Men's Light (60kg) ALVAREZ ESTRADA Lazaro CUB OUMIHA Sofiane FRA

    5 Final Men's Light Welter (64kg) KHOLDAROV Ikboljon UZB CRUZ GOMEZ Andy CUB

    6 Final Men's Welter (69kg) GIYASOV Shakhram UZB IGLESIAS Roniel CUB

    7 Final Men's Middle (75kg) AMANKUL Abilkhan KAZ KHYZHNIAK Oleksandr UKR

    8 Final Men's Light Heavy (81kg) LA CRUZ Julio CUB WARD Joseph IRL

    9 Final Men's Heavy (91kg) TISHCHENKO Evgeny RUS SAVON Erislandy CUB

    10 Final Men's Super Heavy (+91kg) KUNKABAYEV Kamshybek KAZ MAJIDOV Mahammadrasul AZE
     
  15. gmurphy

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    My predictions

    49kg - dusmatov
    52kg - veitia
    56kg - ragen
    60kg - Alvarez
    64kg - Gomez
    69kg - giyasov
    75kg - amankul
    81kg - de LA Cruz
    91kg - tishchenko (after getting battered, he shows him who the A side is)
    91kg+ - the Kazakh

    One thing I find really annoying about de LA Cruz is how the judges view him. Honestly the reason he never loses a round is because even when they are even the judges side with him when he's not the aggressor.its fairly annoing boxers can have close to 50-50 fights with him, and he only lands little jabs but the judges will have it a shut out.

    I mean buatsi put him on he's are at the Olympics and still lost the round.
     
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