AJ accepts Fury's 60/40 offer

Usyk did get 50/50 though, he didn't get 60/40.
Fury's commercial value far exceeds all those three mentioned as well so it's not comparable. Financially and popularity wise this is a fight amongst peers. And again this is over simplifying the argument to purely financial elements (which haven't been tested in a post embarrassing meltdown three loss beltless AJ world by the way). Because AJ has nothing else to offer. The prestige attached to beating him is gone. He has no belts. He's not a mandatory who has fought his way up and is calling Fury out. It's just money. Fury has more to lose, is offering him a shot, is offering him legacy, is offering him a more than fair split right off the bat in the first fight, the chance to erase the memory of him embarrassing himself etc etc. Even the rematch would feature a one loss fighter going in against a three loss one so as far as I'm concerned asking for 60/40 is outright arrogance. I'd like to think Hearn and AJ know this and are just trying to save a little face making any kind of demand instead of meekly accepting everything they're given.

 

You didn't answer any of the uncomfortable question, let me quote them again:

Why team Fury send official contract with November 12 date ? When they have intended to fight on December 17th, which is a fact, s they have pre-booked stadium for that date.

Why is there a rematch clause, when Fury is so certain he will beat AJ with certain ? Why is 50-50 in the rematch clause ?

Why is Fury trying to handicap AJ not giving him enough time, which anyone with more than 2 brain cells can acknowledge, excluding you, who thinks fighter start their camp without having signed a contract, and also straight away after they have a match.

You answer that December 17th is perfectly fine date, thanks for that and i fully agree.

I already explained to you, like 50 time already why December 3 or earlier date is not okay. And what Fury say on instagram doesn't mean a s****, the date was November 12 in the contract.


If Fury team want this fight, they will make it on December 17th.


AJ is AJ, he is still number 1 draw in the division and doesn't need to bend to Fury or anyone demands. If he wanted a way out, he would have say that he already have a fight in place or mind, or don't agree on 60-40, or doesn't want rematch clause, etc.


He straight away agree the fight, showing he want the fight. His demands are reasonable.
It's up to Fury if he want to fight, to give AJ his time to prepare.


AJ already said he will be ready for December 17th. If Fury is not happy, he should go and fight his usual opponents, aka Charr, Chisora or Kabayel or so.


AJ is 2 time HW Champion and doesn't need anyone to "give him opportunity". He has plan to rebuild his career, and if Fury ain't happy with December 17th and give AJ 2 more weeks for the biggest fight in Boxing, then yeah he is that doesn't want the fight, and just using AJ name.

 

The better boxer is the man not mentioned, Usyk!!!

 

There is no doubt about that, he is head and shoulder number 1.

 

Apparently they have stadiums booked for several dates. But obviously Fury isn't fighting in all those stadiums on all those dates.

Maybe Fury wanted to fight on November 12th.

I told you already I don't care for rematch clauses at all.
But it's a stupid question. Obviously rematch clauses are in case you lose! So yes, Fury and his team know he can lose.
The vast majority of voluntary defences these days include rematch clause. That's not something I support but in context shouldn't prevent this fight.

No one's being handicapped.
The gap between August 20th and December 3rd is 15 full weeks.
That's about 3 fights a year schedule.

December 3rd is fine.
You are full of ****.
12 weeks & 2 days notice v 14 weeks & 2 days notice shouldn't make or break Joshua's chances.

If Joshua wants the fight he will agree to December 3rd.

Fury's made no demands.
He's made an offer.
Voluntary defence.
Against a boxer coming off 2 losses, with no belts, and no positioning towards mandatory in foreseeable future.

December 3rd is reasonable.
You know it. I know it.
AJ knows it.

You're basically saying AJ gets to dictate because he's a huge draw but this is just pandering to ego and the diva mindset. Problem is, they all have egos. Ultimately Fury is champion and making AJ an offer.

Honestly if Joshua can't get ready in 12 weeks he'll never be ready.

I believe Joshua will accept December 3rd.
Then we will see what happens next.

 

The idea that Fury's sat their thinking "I can beat him if I fight him in 12 weeks time, but 14 weeks time he'd kill me" is so absolutely ridiculous it's laughable.

 

Nqh they were going to fight on December 17th. That was his goal. But it changed with AJ. Yeah anyone can see why.

No one start his camp straight after his fight, you are deluded. I already goes through this. People start their camp after a fight is signed. Not earlier. You should learn a thing or two about boxing and business as a whole.

No it's not. AJ will most probably on 8 week camp, having in mind he most probably plan to take September off.
If he didn't want the fight, he would have said so, by rejecting the split or the one-sided rematch clause, simple as that. Or just say he already have made his fight plans. Simple as that.

The guy that doesn't want the fight is Fury, and he is just using AJ name to fight a nobodies like Charr or Chisora. At best Kabayel. Enjoy it.

Fury made a 60-40 offer with a rematch clause in his favor, that was accepted. Date of the fight is always going to be subject to both fighter having a word, especially when one of them just had a hard Championship fight, going full 12 rounds.

December 3 is not an okay date. December 17th is an okay date.
I know it, you may not know it, but anyone with more than 2 brain cells know it.

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Making a reasonable demand about the date of the fight is not dictating a thing. AJ most probably won't agree December 3rd date, as it way too soon, and he will be handicapped.

And you get ignored, cause you are just repeating the same s**** over and over again.
You are ignoring any logical arguments and facts. As well as being delusional biased Fury fanboy.

I gave you enough exception, you ruin them all, should have ignored you long time ago. Goodbye buddy.

 

It's a great offer @lordlosh
you are perhaps just very stupid person
this is probably not your fault

 

The reality is both 3rd and 17th of December are both fine.

However, Fury is the unbeaten one and the one with the belt, so its an ego thing and his way of saying it is on my terms.

AJ should just accept the 3rd in my opnion.

 

exactly.

 

Can one the pro Fury fans that think Fury is in right answer me this. If Fury had 17th booked to fight Chisora, why can't Fury fight AJ on the same date?

It's clear PR stunt by Fury (they probably though AJ wouldn't agree to 40% split) and its bad look for as he has no legit reason not to fight in the 17th?

 

Nqh bro, they won't answer you, cause they are full of ****, just like Fury.

They said December 3rd is legit date, when it's not. AJ wont have a full camp like that. Anyone knows that AJ is doing full camps always.
Fury is exactly trying to handicap AJ, cause they didn't think AJ will call their bluff, but it backtracked and they are trying to safe face now.
Also putting a deadline for today is just telling you they never really wanted the fight.

If AJ didn't wanted the fight he would have said NO from the get going and excuse with he want to rebuild, already had a date for a fight/opponent or just not agree to the 60-40 split and demand 50-50.

If he don't want to fight on early date is cause it's not going to work on his schedule, and for a big fight that is way too soon.
It's one thing to fight Top 15 fighter with 8 week camp or less, another Top 3 fighter in the division.

He had 12 round fight with Usyk, and it's coming from a hard 6+ month camp, obviously he will rest for a month or so, and then resume with training and then enter a camp. He won't somehow jump from camp to camp. No one is doing this.


Also Fury is never in a million year fight in December against AJ, and then somehow fight in February/March against Usyk. When he has done such schedule ?

 

I don't know if he did, or if he can or if he can't.

AJ has no legit reason to turn down December 3.
And since Fury is the man making the offer, the onus is not on Fury to answer you.
The onus is on Joshua's fans to explain how 87 days notice of the date is not enough time.

 

You make no sense.

Fury will have the same time to prepare as AJ has.
According to you a fighter cannot start to train for a fight until contract is signed. So Fury is in same boat. But probably in less good shape.

It's over 12 weeks away anyway.
Plenty of time.

The idea that Fury can handicap a boxer by giving him 12+ weeks notice rather than 14+ is so stupid.

Fury trained about 6 or 8 weeks total with Javan Sugar Hill Steward for Wilder rematch .

It's bizarre people are making this 12 weeks notice seem unfair on AJ.

 

He stated for weeks that was when he wanted to fight. Then the Joshua fight turned up and suddenly he demands a fight a month earlier. king of the ducks.