AJ busted Fury's and Ngannou's myth

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Oh, stops it. Where was Fury faints, when Ngannou toyed with him? If a slow footed and slow hand speed MMA guy absolutely toyed with Fury, AJ going to destroys him. Fury has nothing, and i mean NOTHING on AJ.

    AJ is stronger, faster, fight on higher pace, better footwork(and last 2 fights proved it), his power is like 100x time more Fury, and AJ IQ is actually quite underrated. He is also excellent tactical boxer, and natural counter puncher. Fury has nothing on AJ.
    AJ is also great inside fighter, don't care what the crybabies on here think, and Fury doesn't have a working plan for AJ. If he decide to keep it long, AJ will absolutely shatter him from distance. Fury also doesn't have the cardio anylonger to do that. If he tries to clinch to rest, he is getting murdered in there.
    He doesn't have anything on AJ.
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I mean he is...he's had more than one occasion of totally losing his head and letting lame smack talk get to him.
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly man. Fury from Ngannou is the same Fury from Whyte and Chisora fights. He just wasn't able to bully Ngannou. And Ngannou throwed him like a bag of potatoes. And Ngannou couldn't even move AJ by an inch.

    Can you imagine what AJ will do to Fury?
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not just that. People overact on how he lost. He floored Ruiz, and then hurt him with a big right hand, and though Ruiz is done for, and just goes for the kill, get clipped, concussed, and that was it. I won't call it a lucky punch, but obviously AJ wasn't taking Ruiz seriously, as he was joking with him before the fight, giving him the title, taking photos and all this stuffs.
    Also AJ never quit in that fight, as he always get up, and if you see Fury, Parker, and all of this guys when they get up, they wait for their corner and then gets up, turn their back on the ref and gets huge counts. AJ was facing the referee. The guy get's up a good what 4-5 time before the refs wave it.
    And it was all down to the concussion he suffer to that table shot.

    In the rematch AJ won every single round, outboxed Ruiz beautiful and didn't need to stink the whole room with Fury clinch and holding fest. He beat him using his skills and movement. Actually sweet sience.
    And people on here still didn't give him any credit for that win, and claim Ruiz was not in shape. But i don't see anyone say that AJ wasn't in his best shape for the first fight, even though Ruiz was late, late replacement, and AJ obviously didn't take him seriously at all.
    AJ also had some personal problem at that time, but no, when it comes to AJ and losing. He is in his absolutely prime. When it comes to Fury and him losing, oh it's because he wasn't serious about it ....

    Should i even mention that 99% of the forum on here didn't give even a slight chance for AJ to beat Ruiz in the rematch? As they were claiming it wasn't just 1 "lucky" punch.
     
  5. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You might be misunderstanding me. I don't think Fury can recapture his youth and regain his mobility. It's harder to do the older you get and Fury is not exactly a guy who always stayed in shape.

    Even in his first Wilder fight, Fury still moved well.
    As he tried to beef up and change his style against Wilder he lost the ability to move well.

    I 100% believe this forum tends to over value guys that had a good showing and move to bum status anyone who loses.

    Joshua is on top of the world now but he is the same guy that got knocked silly by El Gordo Ruiz and whipped twice by Cruiserweight Usyk.
     
  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bro Parker looked like a prime Ali against Wilder. How anyone looks against Wilder ain't thing to talk about. The guy is a terrible boxer. Fury still finds the floor 2 time against Wilder, and could have very well be waved by the ref in that second KD.

    As far as the other goes, i'm not native, so i may have misunderstood your previous post, for which i apologies.

    As far as AJ being on top of the world, for me he always was in top 3-4 in the division, and will be in any division.
    I don't overrate him, and i don't underrate him.

    But people on here knows what my stance on him and Fury is. I'm talking specifically about style wise. Fury had nothing on AJ style wise, and will be one of the easiest AJ fight.
    Just to prove my point i had AJ beating Fury, at AJ lowest, after the 2 Usyk loses i even had a ban bet that AJ will KO Fury. But surprise, surprise Fury managed to get out of the fight with AJ once again. He never wanted AJ and will never fight him. On that i'm certain.
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's not just miniq. There was 1 guy in the RBR thread of Fury - Ngannou, and were making thread after it, that Ngannou has a granite chin, and no boxer can ever hurt him.
    He was saying that Ngannou was hit with High Kicks, huge shots with small gloves, etc, etc. Also all week long people were fascinated by Ngannou neck and how strong he is, how he will toy around AJ around the ring, and will kill him in the clinch. In reality it's looks nothing alike, right?
     
  8. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury kept feinting Ngannou, Ngannou just didnt Care. Styles make fights, thats the first thing anybody who knows boxing will tell you when you say fighter A beat B and B beat C so fighter A will beat C. Joshua has everything over Fury except a tougher mentality and digging deep to get the win. If the fight happened now I think Joshuas discipline would give him the edge over Fury who’s always partied and been out of shape but that wouldn’t have always been the case.
     
  9. VG_Addict

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    The fact that Ngannou gave Fury so much trouble says more about Fury than it does about Ngannou, whether Fury took the fight seriously or not.
     
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  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Firstable you don't need to explain me that style makes fight. You should have read my post. I'm claiming AJ is beating Fury from like 5 years ago. This ain't my opinion on Wallin, Ngannou, and Parker beating Wilder with ease.
    Still this fights it's given you a very good perspective at the strength and weakness of each.

    And Fury has nothing on AJ, nothing. AJ lost to Usyk for the given reason:

    Usyk is just miles better boxer. Usyk cardio is/was(he is old now) miles better. Usyk was faster. Usyk has the best footwork in boxing and it's not even close, never was. Usyk also has the best upper body movement. Usyk is also so strong, but people don't see this.

    That's why AJ lost. But AJ also improve with every single fight, and he learn from his fights, unlike most fighters, who are big only on words.

    And Fury had what on AJ, nothing exactly.
    As far as tougher mentality, don't sold me that buddy. People were saying the same thing for Ngannou, and how that ended?
    And Fury doesn't have even 1/10 on Ngannou chin.
    Also AJ is a mental beast, if you don't see, you know nothing toughness, mentality and so on.

    You are showing your mentality, your heart and your soul in the gym, in the training. In the ring you are showing your skills and all you have done during the training period. It's that simple.
    Unlike Wilder, Fury, and all of this big talkers. AJ doesn't talk big, he is showing it.
    He learn from his mistake, constantly changing and improving. Where is that "famous" Wilder heart ? Shouldn't he showed that in the training to forget his ego and to actually try and improve, and show it in the ring? Same for Chisora. One tough mf****, that didn't improve even one a bit from the start to end of his career.

    Again gym is the place to show you have heart and do the needed work to actually improve and to change the result next time.
    And sorry, but no one is even close to being on AJ level on that.
     
  11. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can’t say that Fury doesn’t have the chin Ngannou does because he took wilders bombs and got back up, thats just ridiculous. You are also making it sound like Joshua is a great boxer but admitting he wasn’t good enough to box Usyk, just like you say Ngannous mental toughness meant nothin, all of Joshuas advantages over usyk meant nothing. I do agree with your post to the extent that some people were saying Fury would have beat both K bros in their prime and that is just insane, but also he is not a bum.
     
  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No Fury ain't got a good chin, and it's nowhere near Ngannou level, miles behind.

    Fury was floored by f**** featherfisted bums like Neven Pajkić. Cunningham who is a light hitter floored him as well. Wilder who is a terrible boxer floored him 4 time. Same Wilder, who couldn't lay a glove on Parker.

    AJ is killing Fury, and if Fury wasn't such a chicken we wouldn't have even talk or guess about it, as the fight would have been made and done already.
     
  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    shows he is a never was.
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'm with you in a lot of ways, but let me say this to advocate for the devil: Fury could watch FN fight but only AJ got to see him fight a big pro boxing match, and he got all the rounds to observe how he's adjusting to pure boxing. And that's not that small of a thing, maybe. I think he formulated a game plan that it would have been impossible for Fury to have done, due to the circumstances (circumstances which are completely Fury's fault, of course). Fury, to me, is a better technical mind than AJ, generally speaking, even if AJ came in much smarter in this one triangle instance.
     
  15. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder only landed in the first fight once Fury got cocky, that’s like saying Wlad couldn’t land on Fury but almost got Joshua out of there.
     
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