AJ definitely wants Fury's resume

Joshua > Fury

The zero is mammoth, no question, but you really have to be obsessed with a zero in the loss column to rate Furys career over Joshuas. AND you must view Wilder as a truly great fighter.

 

Other than Wlad, who's Joshua beaten that's better than Wilder?

 

CST can keep it real and speak truths.

Yeah I do think his initial posts here are dead on.

 

Povetkin for one.

Of their 15 or 20 best combined wins, ranked 1-20, or ranking all of their career wins, this would be an embarrassment for Fury and those who support him in this debate.

 

If you had to bet your life on Joshua winning his next fight and you could pick his opponent, would you rather it was Vs Povetkin or Wilder? Both in their prime.

I'd pick the Russian personally.

 

We disagree.

 

fury is a beaten hw
you cant write the first big mac fight out of history
tyson knows he took an l that night

 

The other way to look at it is Fury has less top 10 opponents but is considered number 1. “Easier” road to number 1. Who doesn’t want that!

 

The "more top 10 opponents" thing means very little.
Since, AJ actually LOST badly to a guy who very few of you would have said was top 10 at the time. So, that should either reflect really badly on AJ's resume, or suggest that top 10 ranking is rather unimportant, or both.

 

Usyk and Haye, and the great Holyfield, were also blown up CWs, to be fair.

Cunningham was nothing special, but about the same level as Takam, better than Molina or Breazeale, to be fair.

 

If he's listed Molina and Takam you can add the likes of Johnson. Cunningham was also a top 10 heavyweight for a while in case you don't recall, he beat an undefeated Amir Mansour, drew with Tarver and had a close loss to Glazkov. Mightn't be the best opponent but he's of the calibre of many listed on AJ's resume there.

 

You're really reaching.

 

He's correct.
Cunningham was rated as borderline top 10 contender at the time. He was coming off a fight with Tomasz Adamek that most thought he deserved the decision, when Adamek was rated as a top 5 or 10 heavyweight.
Nothing special but in the same category as many of those "AJ resume" names that have been thrown about.

 

How's that reaching? It's true. You just don't want to give him any credit.

 

Cunningham was a non-entitty at HW, Takam was levels above Johnson.