AJ doesn't seem keen on fighting Wilder

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can get a unification instead of a mandatory, when the Fury fight fell through the first time that set up for Parker to unify with Wilder who had got Stiverne to step aside.
     
  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With VADA testing, the division is pretty much open & out...No top 10 boxer can pass VADA testing, so they will have to show up lethargic & sore. Pick up the paycheck & get KTFO

    This VADA testing bull$hit needs to stop, Deontay Wilder already has the natural KO power advantage vs all heavyweights, let them have their PEDs
     
  3. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see it as AJ knowing there is a good chance he gets done for steroids if he signs to fight Wilder. Bye bye endorsements and good guy image.
     
  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What you talking about Triple G, Pacquiao, Ward, Kovalev, Wilder all use VADA testing and have never failed.
     
  5. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well the heavyweights use PEDs more regularly, due to the lack of weight restrictions...So Deontay Wilder is taking advantage of this weak point

    Deontay Wilder gets little advantage of PEDs, so obviously he is jumping on the VADA bandwagon, because it clears up the division for him...Anybody who shows up without PEDs will become an Easy KO
     
  6. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because Aj fought those guys before he faced Wlad. Wlad made him a superstar. 90 thousand live gate etc. Joshua has so many options now just against other Brits that can get him paid that Wilder needs to really step up and prove himself and irregardless of Joshua, Wilder should be, and should have been fighting better competition for a long time now.
     
  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should but he hasn't but who has? The fact of the matter is none of them have been any top guys except AJ with Wlad and the way you know this is every top guy is undefeated. So tell me who should Wilder beat if Povetkin and Ortiz have proven they won't fight him clean??
     
  8. The Long Count

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    AJ fought Breazale when he was undefeated and Whyte in addition to Wlad.

    First off I don't think Wilder and his team should ever have flown home from England before the WBC ruled on Povetkin. Aside from that Wilder could of faced guys like Jennings, Haye, Parker, Takam, Wach.

    Jennings beat fedosov, Szpilka (better than Wilder did), Perez, and went the distance with Wlad.
    Wilder never even thought of fighting him on way up or with WBC belt, in what would of made a great American heavyweight matchup. Instead eventually Jennings had to fight Ortiz

    Carlos Takam, fought to a draw with Perez and gave a great game effort against Povetkin and some feel deserved the nod over Parker.

    Wach big and durable and has championship experience going the distance with Wlad, and 11 rounds with Povetkin.

    Haye, a big mouth that could sell and hype any fight and who Tay sparred with.

    This is just to name a few, meanwhile I see Parker fighting Ruiz jr, Tackam, H. Fury.

    Meanwhile Wilder after 39 fights is giving us Stiverne 2. After fighting a former football player and shot to beyond belief Areolla, and Jennings victims Szpilka, and the absurd Molina. Etc etc

    Nothing but crickets from Wilder's camp when it comes to fighting legit top 10 material.

    Maybe we'll get Molina 2 next.
    He's protected and I don't need to defend it EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
     
  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is false,Parker had signed to fight Fury in May and was not allowed to have unification over a Mandatory he then was allowed to pick a voluntary in the top 15 in the WBO when Fury pulled out. Of course then wilder forgets that he told Parker he couldnt fight him until his OWN mandatory was taking care of which EIGHT months had past and hasnt yet. SMH . Parker was in no situation to fight Wilder and he knows it with his ritual call outs...lol
     
  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know damn well if wilder had beaten the guys you name he would get no credit, Parker beat Takam, Povetkin beat Wach, Bellew just beat Haye, Jennings got smoked by Ortiz.

    Wilder iced Spilka and left him unconscious Id rather get TKOed than KTFO.
     
  11. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You can side step any argument i bring to you,i dont know how long youve been watching boxing but it cant be that long!

    Lennox Lewis /Holyfield /Tyson were the TOP 3 guys in the 90's era . They ALL didnt fight each other until the late 90's in Tysons case 2000's vs Lewis, and Bowe and Lewis NEVER even fought when they were the top two . Claiming Joshua is avoiding Wilder ( who actually avoided Klitchko ,but title holders should be ready ,right ? lol ) is as dumb as it gets , and considering Joshua cant even fight him yet anyway .

    Wilder is early 30's (31 ) so to think hes going to age into some old man if the fight doesnt happen next or in 2018 is absurd and point blank fanboy talk.

    Joshua has been champion for a year and a half yet is is labeled as scared, afraid or worried ,which is scary in itself that this is the IQ of boxing fans today ! :eyepop:
     
  12. jmashyaka

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    How can he not fight deontay as a voluntary in that case? If you can show me the article where Wilder said he couldn't fight Parker until he cleared his mandatory? Remember he was never planning to fight Stiverne he was tryna get him to step aside.
     
  13. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Now your just being a fanboy! Stiveren became Wilders mandatory on Feb.28th,he did not pay side step money until Sept. 1st...do the math? Thats SIX/ SEVEN months in between of wilder doing nothing but CALL OUTS..lol..

    Parker was still obligated to fight Fury under WBO rules no matter what you say or want. The hard truth for you guys is Wilders call outs have meant nothing so far not one.I have no doubt that Parker would be hesitant NOW to take a wilder fight but that has nothing to do with nothing then when discussions were being discussed .

    Wilder KNEW he was scheduled for fury way back in Feb which is why team Wilder told Parker go take care of your mandatory in the locker room ...its on VIDEO. .

    Come'on this is ridiculous the points you make...you really need to look at what you are posting!
     
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  14. The Long Count

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    When you can't debate the facts disparage the argument.
    And that's not true at all as far as me not giving credit - I was on here dying for Wilder to fight Jennings. And I recently posted that I would give him credit if he defeated Ortiz.
    Szpilka was dominated by Jennings. It was a more impressive performance than Wilder had against him.


    Wilder has 38 fights only 1 against a ring rated top 10 opponent. This will be his 6th title defense. 0 have been against Ring rated top 10 opponents.

    Go ahead and keep making excuses.
     
  15. Zakman

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    Look at Wilder's record. All he fights are stiffs that Chris Byrd could knock out. Seriously. The first five years - FIVE YEARS - of his career his "opposition" was the absolute worst I've seen in 35 years of following boxing. He was fighting guys in his fifth year as a pro that most fighters are done facing in their first year. And some of these no-hopers had Wilder on the deck!

    And look at the comp he's faced since he won the title. It's better than those first five years - how could it not be - but is still sub-standard for a "champion."

    The reason why was revealed early in his career against tomato cans Dustin Nichols and Harold Sconiers. Wilder can't take a punch and his handlers know it. They want to keep this con game going as long as possible. Don't be fooled!!