AJ has a HUGE respect for Usyk

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  1. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who doesn’t respect 100%?
     
  2. TheMotorCityCobra

    TheMotorCityCobra Active Member Full Member

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    Fair point. But to me, Usyk is just so much better technically than this current crop of heavies. His jab, movement, footwork, combination punching, ring IQ, work rate and his hand speed are all a level above. Plus, it's not like he's a small dude, he's 6'3" and he can carry 220-225 no problem. I'm pretty sure he'll be just fine.
     
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  3. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk would box rings around Wilder, to the point where Wilder would be fit to collapse through exhaustion and chasing Usyk around in circles to the point where his head would be spinning out. At that point, Usyk would 'Bellew' Wilder and put that one trick pony out of his misery.

    It would be embarrassing how easy Usyk would make it look cuz guess what? By the time Wilder steps foot in the ring with Usyk, he'll be 36-37, likely shot and incredibly injury prone and doing it because he has no other choice. Wilder will never, NEVER fight Usyk unless he has been his mandatory for a minimum of 2 years, Wilder don't want that smoke.
     
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  4. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Usyk won't go down the Wbc route, if he's with Eddie Hearn and DAZN. You think he's gonna win a decision in the states over Deontay when Fury couldn't? Not on the bomb squads watch.
     
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  5. Tankatron

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    Usyk would be far too fresh, quick and clever for Ortiz. I don't think that's even open to debate. Ortiznt has looked absolute gash of late and ain't gonna improve from here on in. Usyk on the other hand is just getting going.
     
  6. Tankatron

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    No, you're absolutely right as the WBC wil continue to protect Wilder until the next American Heavyweight is able to take his place ( strange given the WBC is based in Mexico, but still ) but if they were to fight, Usyk would definately stop Wilder and I would take a ban bet on that, not that it's ever going to happen.
     
  7. PunchersChance.

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    Usyk was run close by Breidis, Ortiz would have little trouble with Breidis, and he definitely wouldn’t have rounds taken off him by Tony Bellew. Usyk hasn’t faced a challenge anything near even this current version of Ortiz.
     
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  8. lepinthehood

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    Breidis would give Ortiz something to think about. dont care what anyone says. HW's are slowmoving less agile men.
     
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  9. TheMotorCityCobra

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    Not to mention Ortiz is probably in his late 40's and he looks slower and more lethargic with each passing fight. He's pretty much done.
     
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  10. Tankatron

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    Usyk is a big lump for a Cruiserweight and was obviously having to cut weight, especially given he fought at Superheavy in the WBSS. He handled Joyce comfortably and would handily beat an old, past prime plodder like Ortizn't. How exactly would Ortizn't beat Usyk?

    Ortiz can't outwork Usyk, I doubt he catches him often enough to get the KO and he's not going to outhustle Usyk as he won't have the engine or fast enough footwork to go chasing Usyk down and pinning him on the ropes or to the corners.

    Plus, at Heavyweight, Usyk will likely be a good deal stronger and durable, he's a good deal younger, has far greater pedigree and resume and has won all his title fights away from home. Breidis managed to starch Charr in pretty impressive fashion and couldn't put a dent in Usyk. I just don't see how Ortiz wins a fight against Usyk.
     
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  11. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    There hasn't been many cruiserweights who moved up to heavyweight, in the last 10 years that have won a world title. They get thrown into the pit against these huge behemoths. And soon get sent packing, when they feel the enormous power of these gargantuan sized heavyweights.
     
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  13. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Most of the cw's arent elite fighters, most of them are journeymen who look for hw money.
    david haye was the last elite cw who went up and he done okay.
     
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    Evander wouldn’t have done what he did with modern day testing, he was juiced to the gills.
     
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  15. chico g

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    I suppose Haye would be a good example of that. He was a very big puncher though. I always wondered if he was just unlucky to come up against Wlad. Or his lack of skill, and maybe durability stopped him from reaching the very best achievement at heavyweight. He was a solid beltholder. I think he was always physically drained at cruiserweight. And his frame was built for a natural heavyweight's body. Don't think some of the top cruiserweights in todays division are though.
     
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