AJ - "If these fights come off it's because of me, if they don't come off it's because of them'

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  1. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    He can be as skilled as he wants and as tall and ripped as he wants, but he's fought 1 guy in Breazeale who you can consider above D level and he lost, again it was an exciting fight.....but he lost.

    His best win to date is Gregory Tony....what next....thats a great win?
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I didn't say he won? He lost to a top ranked guy ? Somehow in your world he can't beat anyone on Ortiz resume? Based on what?

    He doesn't even have 19 fights yet anyone should see he would clearly be Ortiz biggest threat if they fought being longer than Ortiz and arguably harder puncher ...he's definatley faster.

    So again how is it Izu would not rank up there with Ortizs opposition? So if Izu defeated Breazeale you would just say he beat a D level fighter.....your boxing math/logic only goes in circles.

    At the end of the day its obvious only Jennings stands a chance against Izu and he would lose that fight.
     
  3. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    LOL

    How is it obvious?

    Thompson even at his age has beaten better and been in with better opponents than Izu.

    Malik Scott for as ordinary he is or can be has again beaten better quality of fighters than Izu has.

    Jennings needs no explanation and even Barrett was beating better opposition at his stage in his career than that of Izu.

    Listen, Izu may beat the fighters that I've mentioned but it's not "obvious" or a "fact" that he brushes through them....especially as he's NOT BEATEN ANYONE OF NOTE.

    And for the record I'm on record saying that Ortiz for the hype he gets has yet to be truly tested opponent wise.
     
  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Maliks best win is 45 year old Thompson..what on earth are you smoking?

    Ortiz is a top 3 HW based on he has never been close to losing or losing many rounds. We don't need a brain surgeon to see the giant southpaw is more dangerous than Povetkin is who you have ranked 2.

    Jennings needs no explanation for what? He's hit his ceiling at HW and that's why his resume is thin....he even lost too Perez but they gave him a draw.

    Izu is inactive is the only reason he is not ranked in top 20 but rankings don't change reality. He would easily be Ortiz best opponent if they were to fight , yes it is obvious if you look at the actual fighters which you don't.

    Not many do which is why I was the only one on this forum who picked Breazeale over Izu at that time while everyone else was labeling him the Joshua destroyer....
     
  5. james5000

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    Jennings didn't get a draw against Perez he got a win? That was a prime Perez too when he was dangerous. Jennings also beat Fedosov and Szpilka and gave Wlad a tough fight!!!!
     
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  6. Papillon

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    But that Tony Thompson was coming in at 4-2, 2 wins a piece against Price and Solis, his 2 losses came against Takam and Pulev.

    Infact that TT was coming in with a better resume of 6 fights than Izu as a career.

    Amazing that you have been ragging on me regarding Kownacki, yet are all over Izu with fictional runs at other fighters resumes.

    P.S Jennings resume may be paper thin.....but it's better than a Gregory Tony win LMFAO
     
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  7. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    He's just trying to make Joshua's resume appear better than it is by fictional fights, resumes, performances, etc relating to AJ's past opponents and their past opponents.
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Stop the nonsense the guy was 45 years old. Lol

    I don't care about Gregory Tony has nothing to do with an imbecile putting Kownacki in top 10 and added the justification of not adding Whyte...only in idiot world if such a place exists.

    Kownacki is a green 16 fight HW arm puncher who relies on volume punching. Which isn't bad but the second he steps up with an actual puncher we will see what's what beyond 225 Szpilka again coming off a year and half lay off.

    I could actual list no fewer than 5 guys not even recognized yet to beat Kownacki but that would just give you more stupid verbatum to attach yourself too with nothing that actually makes sense when you respond....lol

    The true problem is your infatuation with Joshua which is why your posts are illogically structured. That may work with some but maybe you should go through this thread and see what some are telling you? SMH
     
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  9. GALVATRON

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    Well I scored it a draw if not win for Perez. Close SD. There was no prime shift from that fight...actually he is in his prime now BC he's was drinking at those fights.

    He's not even a true HW so.....?

    Jennings gave Klitchko a tough fight? Really what rounds did he win?
     
  10. Papillon

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    Yes he was 45 yo but still on s good run, a better run, beating and losing to better opponents than Izu was.

    If im wrong answer me this.

    1. Has Izu beaten anyone of a better standard than Szpilka, Solis or Price?

    2. Is losing UD'S to Pulev and Takam better than being KTFO by Breazeale in 5?

    Let's see, you are borderline deranged I'm giving you actual facts of fights that have happened, you are giving me fiction.

    "I could give you 5 examples of guys who beat Kownacki who are not even recognized yet"

    That's what you said....well maybe you can....I don't think Kownacki is unbeatable, Infact hell never be a champion but again you are giving me fiction as it hasn't happened yet.

    You are the ****ing imbecile.

    Ignoring facts to make up fiction, to improve on this mythical AJ resume.
     
  11. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Szpilka is a 225 pound weak puncher ,suspect chin who even was stopped by Jennings who had slightly over 50% k.o percentage when he fought him. Somehow added to a crushing loss from Wilder he fights Kownacki off a year and a half lay off and that's what pits Kownacki in top ten? Ha Ha

    Price is even chinnier and can't even get past Hammer in his recent outting... Imagine Izu touching him..lol


    Solis???:crazylick:


    When was Thompson on a good run in the timeframe you are putting him in? He hadn't won more than TWO consecutive fights both to chinny price. :imwithstupid:

    You don't reward fighters for losses you reward them for wins you newb. Are you suggestion Tony Thompson is a better fighter than Izu? Man I hope so...lmao

    If we actually went by your logic we would have to rank Kownacki over Wilder BC you base your standings on rounds fought. You do this BC your an idiot who doesnt know how to apply actual boxing IQ to the actual fighters.


    Everything you post is basically fiction trying to bend into Joshua comparison...and I'm the deranged one? :taptap:
     
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  12. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    I've never tried to compare AJ to Kownacki....never.

    "You don't reward fighters for losses you reward them for wins you newb. Are you suggestion Tony Thompson is a better fighter than Izu? Man I hope so...lmao"

    That's what you ask....and I agree you don't now tell me who exactly has Izu beaten?

    LMFAO you are a ****ing spastic.