AJ on Wilder

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  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Joshua talks like this but imo the way he tries to beat Wilder is to box exactly like he did with Ruiz...move, jab and don’t over commit until there’s a clear window in which to throw a bomb. The reason I don’t think he goes in there to blast him out is the exact same reason he didn’t go into the rematch with Ruiz and try and blast him out. He’s not going to disrespect Wilder’s power when he overly respected Ruiz’s.

    I’ve said this before, but that gung-ho mentality was smashed out of him by Klitschko, the evidence of which he has only 1 legitimate stoppage in the 5 fights since. He’s found a new style and he should stick to it now, he’s much harder to hit now.
     
  2. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Whilst he’s harder to hit he’s also not impossible to hit and all evidence suggests Wilder will have every chance of stopping him.

    I think he knew, having fought Ruiz, that he had a way to win if he stuck to it. I’m just not sold on Wilder as a boxer and think given how badly hurt he’s been Joshua still has absolutely every chance of stopping him.

    I personally think the interesting thing if the fight happens will be how Wilder opens up. Joshua might not hit as hard but he’s a massive guy, significantly heavier than Wilder and capable of doing serious damage. It could be unbelievably cautious early on.
     
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  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I'm not sure the guy I just see terrified to trade with Ruiz Jr is going to rush in and do so with Wilder.
     
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  4. Bridie mcmahon

    Bridie mcmahon Active Member banned Full Member

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    Has wilder ever fought someone with a good inside game and power? That's the key to beating him imo.he's basically a one handed fighter who needs distance to land that power right hand.get inside on him and his biggest weapon is neutralised.
     
  5. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is exactlywhy I've always thought that Whyte could be a problem for him, he'd get on the inside, make it horrible, make it messy, he could hurt Wilder.
     
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  6. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I think he’s right.

    Whether he has the balls to do it is a different story.
     
  7. Bridie mcmahon

    Bridie mcmahon Active Member banned Full Member

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    Agree though it is easier said than done.one things for sure you can't go in there with wilder and be tentative.
     
  8. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    We need to wait and see whether his new hybrid Hughie Fury/Wlad Clinchko style is effective against live opponents. Passed the test against the little potato on legs but he will be picked off by Fury, Wider, Usyk, Bakole, Dubois and Joyce.

    As we seen in New York, he is Dancing on Ice when one mediocre power punch lands and all on the above list will connect. I actually think Joshua's power could have been seriously overrated before the Klit fight as all he fought was cheap brand puddings.

    The man will again talk about fighting the best and unifying the division then fight puddings such as Pulev and Chisora blaming splits of money.

    Once he beats any two from Fury, Wider, Usyk, Bakole, Dubois and Joyce then my view him will change.

    So far it is 23 fights, 22 small and/or old puddings and 1 defeat against a little out of shape fatty.
     
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  9. channy

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    I honestly can not see any way in which he beats Wilder, I would love for him to do it but I just cant see how he could.

    Wilder knows he doesn't have to look good, or box like never before, I see it as a very cautious start on both sides, but I do feel Wilder will just bide his time and bide his time knowing at some point he will land one, and as sad as it is for me to say it, when he does it is all over.

    AJ knows he is fragile and can be hurt as we have all seen even before Ruiz stopped him, and that makes all the difference in this fight.
     
  10. TonyHayers

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    Don’t you think Wilder has shown that though? Ortiz nearly stopped him and he’s not really known as a massive puncher, plus he’s been wobbled before by opponents who definitely don’t hit as hard as Joshua.

    I’m loathe to say, in fact I think it’s ridiculous to say, that in a fight which appears to come close to a definition of who lands first that one guy cannot win.
     
  11. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Of course Wilder has shown that, that is why I said it would be a very cautious start on both parts.
     
  12. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha, come on man, I like/love your posts but this a little strong on AJ!

    The Ruiz Jnr fight was an off night, if you look at who he's beaten it's a fairly solid resume and better than that of Fury's and Wilders. The Povetkin win was far better than many give him credit for, Povetkin wasn't the spent force some have said he was and Joshua took a big shot from him and then went on to scramble his brains and leave him a wobbly mess. Wilder does it to a Cuban grandad and the post Joshua hiding Breazeale and he's hailed as a monster.

    Since Wilder beat the fried chicken guzzling tub of s**t that is Stiverne, which was bizarrely enough to grab the WBC belt, he's fought the following,

    Molina
    Duhaupas
    Szpilka
    Arreola
    Washington
    Stiverne (fatter and as inactive as ever)
    Ortiz
    Tyson Fury (an out of shape and probably 80% Fury, schooled by him)
    The ghost of Breazeale
    Ortiz (two years after beating a then already old Ortiz)

    He was unfortunate to have the Povetkin fight called off but the likes of Parker, Pulev, Vlad, Whyte, Joshua, Takam, Chisora have all been around and available at some point during his reign as champion and he hasn't really entertained the idea of fighting any of them, with possibly the exception of AJ. Granted he has no need to fight people like Chisora or Takam but they're better than some of the utter s**t he's got in with in the last 5 years.

    Obviously Tyson Fury's fights since becoming World Champion are well documented on here and I think we're pretty much all in agreement that it's a bit of mess and p**s take to say the least, AJ isn't alone when it comes to taking the easier option from time to time but he's had fewer fights but more tougher opponents on the whole than the other 2.
     
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  13. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    As I posted mate, my views will only change if he beats any 2 from Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Bakole, Dubois and Joyce.

    Got a feeling that Tony Dosh PPV will spend the next 2 years fighting 4 puddings then sail off in his huge yacht full of PPV loot.
     
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  14. Twentyman

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    Booted again, unbelievable.
     
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  15. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the hell has he been booted for now?
     
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