AJ overrated since Parker

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    The points win against Parker was the first sign of Joshua's limits in the HWs imo. If Joshua was really a great boxer he would have to KO Old Klitschko, Parker and Ruiz within 7 rounds. Yesterday's fight revealed that Joshua is nothing more and nothing less than a good boxer with a weak jaw, a low IQ ring who struggles to work out the fights against experienced and skilled boxers and to activate the necessary countermeasures to subvert the unfavorable course of the fights.
    So I think in the rematch any strategy he tries to implement, even that seen against Ruiz 2 (stick and move) will prove to be inconsistent with USyK. The only solution for him would be to put on more weight, pressing USyK and trying to knock him out in the first 5 rounds risking to gas early and to get KOed and concussed again like with Ruiz. Joshua's boxing future as a top fighter gets really hard now.

    PS: as things stand today Joshua would lose even with fighters like Joyce, Hrgovic and Makhmudov imo.
     
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  2. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Overrated now for sure, but he still has the best resume in the HW division. Although Usyk or Fury could easily surpass it depending who they fight next, if it's each other whoever wins will have 2 better wins then anything on AJ's record.
     
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  3. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Joshua beat old fighters and got two losses. Fury's wins (and the draw) against Klitschko, Wilder and Wallin are worth double to Fury. Besides he's undefeated. Fury resume is better imo.
     
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  4. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Not yet.
     
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  5. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can hate on Joshua and he certainly did look like horse **** against Usyk because Usyk was the more skilled and elusive fighter but is Fury fighting the best of the best? When has Fury even fought his own mandatory? Not even one title defense!
     
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  6. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This best "resume" (record) myth should result in an automatic ban for any propagator.

    Charles Martin - won the IBF belt by default, terrible champion, took a dive.

    Molina - Literally a maths teacher, absolutely abysmal.

    Breazeale - highlights of his career is getting two title shots simply because he's 6'7''. Terrible shape, no skills. Wilder put him to bed with one punch.

    Klitschko - old, inactive and coming off a loss. Went life and death and would've probably have lost if not for Vitali telling Wladimir to take his foot off the pedal.

    Takam - hasn't beaten anybody in his whole career. Joe Joyce just laughed him off and was happy to take punches flush from Tickling Takam like he was his little brother. Old and short.

    Paint Dry Parker - the name says it all, also MR ref with nice brown paper envelope to ensure no action on inside. Parker no ambition and bang average heavyweight.

    Povetkin - never been a world champion, previous bout was dropped by.... David Price (plumber from Liverpool). Old and short.

    Rice Pudding Jr - was brutally beaten by him and then gave up - losses must be accounted for when theorising as to who has best record. Nothing will ever expunge this enormous, smelly skidmark. Circled an even fatter Rice Pudding Jr in the rematch. Crap. Tiny little fat guy.

    Pudding Pulev - best wins are Chisora and Hughie Fury. Kept hearing about how amazing his jab is. Useless when up against taller man and with no foot movement or anything. Terrible. Lucky to get two title shots for how crap he is. Old and short.

    Usyk - beaten again, completely schooled from start to finish and lucky to have been as close as he was on the cards. Won 2 rounds at a push.

    In conclusion, two fifty-fifty bouts in his entire career and managed to lose a ninety-ten bout against a fat blob on short notice.

    Best pudding record, certainly.
     
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  7. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury also beat Chisora twice who is not worse than Takam, Breazeale, Martin, Molina at the very least.
     
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  8. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Another thing, Wilder and his team horribly mismanaged his career his refusal to fight AJ even after Joshua's first loss has cost him multiple millions of dollars and probably a great name on his resume. The win wont be worth as much now either in terms of dollars or prestige.
     
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    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Despite whatever spin you want to put on it, it's still a better resume than anyone else currently fighting at HW.
     
  10. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    It’s actually a bit of a tough one between Fury and Joshua. Joshua’s resume is better in quantity but Fury’s peaks in quality. Fury’s wins over Wilder and Wlad are better than any of AJ’s wins for me.
     
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  11. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I would agree but with Wilder his best win is over a a old man who doesn't have a resume either, for me it's hard to call beating a can crusher a better win than Povetkin, Whyte or Parker. Especially considering I don't believe Wilder could beat any of the men I named.
     
  12. TMLT87

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    I think he was overrated by casuals and overly shat on by a lot of hardcores. Hes a good workmanlike fighter who always turns up in shape and has solid basics mixed with good size, athleticism and power. Out of the current era i'm not convinced anyone other than Fury could have gotten through AJs list of opponents without taking losses too.
     
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