AJ s Chin. Question?

I just cant even see it being average. Its below average at best. The shot from ruiz and klitchko completely crumpled him. Whole body went straight to the floor. He also took an age to recover against ruiz and never really recovered. Since when has ruiz been a murderous puncher.

Whyte had him wobbling as did povetkin. Pretty sure whyte knackered his right shoulder in the follow up otherwise i reckon he,d have maybe even got joshua out of there.

Outside of that no one of notes really landed on him. But everytime someone has we,ve had problems.

Theres a reason he never fought wilder....but his path laid out was....pulev...usyk...and fury. Not one of them single shot punchers. Pulev very light puncher...usyk a cruiserweight again not a hravy puncher. Talk about mandatories but since when has a guy with a good promoter got to fight them or else. Theres almost always a way round them. Not only that but the promoter wants whyte to try soften fury up first and keep it a bit longer before putting him in with fury.

 

What about the Fat unfit Mexican...And had Wlad been prime He would have never got up.!!!

 

You don’t tend to lose too much power when you get older. Wlad could very much still bang. Ruiz hurt with a shot behind the ear which affected his equilibrium it had nothing to do with his chin. He also got up all 4 time’s as well btw. You’ve demonstrated your lack of knowledge massively here.

 

Wilder never would have gotten up from the right hand Wlad landed on Joshua.

 

Hypocrisy at It's best.!!!

 

I m not so sure. Got up everytime from fury...although he stopped punching cause he was getting a beatdown...he still pretty much had his faculties intact.

On the otherhand joshuas response is pretty worrying. Klitchko completely crumpled him. Couldnt hit the floor quick enough. Not criticising joshua. Just is what it is. Even ruiz everyone seemed shocked again he couldnt hit the ground quick enough if he tried. Some of them weren,t even massive shots. The reaction of joshuas making the punches seem harder than they are. Dont get me wrong their all decent shots. But klitchko,s had to soften guys up before starting on the right then getting the finisher with the right. Against joshua it was really a punch from nowhere. Klitchko also hurts him badly with an average left hook later the one that drains joshua for about 3 or 4 rounds.

I think people that think his chin is decent will be proven wrong about joshuas chin as time goes on...either that or they,ll keep him from punchers...seems to be the plan anyway. Tbf theres not many punchers out there anyway. He,s open for another shock loss imo tho. Guys now know the way to fight him is have a go. Up till ruiz people thought they just had to tire him...they we,re getting taking out before that point tho.

 

This. His rigid upright style and lack of any defensive skill beyond bare basics is the reason he get's clipped and goes break dancing.

For those comparing it to Wlad's - I actually don't think Wlad's chin was bad at all physically, I think it was actually good. What was VERY BAD was his mental strength and fortitude. He never believed he could take ANY punch for a long time after Sanders.

I think AJ and Wlad's chins are both underrated.

 

What do you mean he couldn’t do down quicker against Wlad? There was a long delay before he went down. It wasn’t an instant drop. That right hand is lethal stop bloody underestimating it. Wlad hits very ****ing hard and I guarantee Wilder wouldn’t have gotten up from that if he was struggling to take Fury’s power.

 

Who doesn't go down when hit by a flush right hand from Wlad? Let alone get up and win the fight? If that's evidence of a below average chin then most of the division has a "below average" chin, which is completely nonsensical.

Whyte is the only man thus far to drop Parker. I'd say that's evidence that he hits pretty damn hard. Povetkin isn't exactly known as a light puncher either. Got any more winning examples?

No then.

He never fought Wilder because Wilder did everything in his power not to fight him. Joshua's already got in the ring with tons of big punchers so the idea that he'd be scared to fight Wilder doesn't ring true. The opposite case cannot be argued.

And if Wilder had beaten Fury he'd have been part of that list. He didn't so he's not.

 

AJ has a glass jaw. Who hasn't knocked him down at this point? Wlad, Ruiz, Dubois, Price, Tila Tequila.... Heck if I got in the ring with Joshua I will knock him down a few times!!!

 

And Joshua got up every time from Ruiz. What point are you making here?

He hit the floor because he was knocked down. That's generally what happens when someone gets hit by a Wlad right hand on the button. Wilder "couldn't hit the floor quick enough" against so-called featherfisted Fury, so where the hell does that put him?

He put everything into that shot (probably because he'd already been knocked down and knew he'd have to go for broke). It wasn't a typical jab, jab, right hand, clinch type performance. Wlad needed to knock Joshua out.

Joshua's never been kept from punchers so either way we'll find out if your prediction bears fruit.

 

Not only that but his whole body went to the floor. Not just his legs or part of his upper torso, his whole body!

Amazing.

 

Go back and watch the 5th round again with english commentary. Froch picks up on it klitchko hits him with a left hook from there joshua depletes quickly. A younger man would have got joshua out of there as ruiz ended up doing. Tbf to joshua he takes some decent shots after could make an argument it held up to an extent. But initially hurting joshua doesnt take that much...it will be his downfall if he continues to fight good challengers.

He takes a lot...the punch that klitchko put him over with was a good one....thats where he hits the deck hard tho. Same against ruiz...he basically chucks himself down. Not that he did but thats how his bodies reacting to the trauma. For me its not a great sign.

Against younger men that now know you,ve got to throw the kitchen sink at him...he,ll be up against it. Thats whyte, povetkin, klitchko and ruiz hurt him. The only other two hes fought of any note was parker and takam. Parker hardly threw....and takam got pulled out as he was starting to look like he could do something. Ruiz finished him and whyte had a great oppertunity to but he hurts his shoulder going for the kill...you can actually see the point he hurts it. Two younger guys with the energy needed.

Ruiz showed you,ve got to hurt him and when you do you,ve got to go all in. Till then everyone thought you had to just tire him out. The way to tire him is to hurt him tho.

Could say his chin holds up pretty well when hurt....but initially he gets hurt quite easily at world class level albeit and struggles to recover for too long. Its a big problem. The worst part is when he does get hurt....hes prone to shutting down. His stamina goes. His power goes a bit. Its like hes fighting in quicksand. Their better keeping him away from punchers tbh...because it,ll be his downfall.

 

The plan was looking like....pulev, usyk and fury after furys been left to age a bit fighting whyte by the sounds of things. Couldnt think of lighter heavyweight punchers.

Fury battered wilder but we,re talking about a 40 lb size difference. That wasthe difference moreso than furys power. Furys punches will not have the same effect because fury is actually still quite a light puncher.

 

Of course, it's a question! He's a Brit!