AJ v Klitschko 2....

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  1. velagod

    velagod Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They were worth being criticised for getting title shot except maybe a few of them, so Miller is being criticised like wise.
     
  2. TonyHayers

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    I've asked several times who Joshua should fight who is both available and not someone he's already beaten. The only response I've seen is 'they should have got someone else.' Who?

    If you want Joshua fighting twice a year then like any champion ever he's going to fight some average names.
     
  3. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    So what's the big issue with it? Literally everyone fights someone average at some stage.
     
  4. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You cant make it up....i watched that fight it was just unreal there was about 150lbs between them
     
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  5. velagod

    velagod Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like I said earlier in this thread, but it doesn’t mean people have to be happy about it Tony does it.

    We also have the right to complain about poor opposition.

    It’s a boxing forum ffs.
     
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  6. Mitch87

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    His winning streak of Dinu, Adamek, Duhuapas, Wach and Kassi is better than anyone else winning streak at present other than Whyte as far title challengers go. Now names wise Miller record may not seem great but compare it to previous title challengers recently and it's superior:


    Fury: A win streak since a drugs ban a number of retirements:
    - Seferi
    - Pianetta

    Stiverne one win since his previous lose in which he beat Rossy (of which Stiverne was dropped in the first round) was deemed enough to earn him a title shot.

    Washington's 2 fight win streak against Chambers and Austin was deemed good enougb to earn him a title shot against Wilder.

    Arreola prior to his title shot against Wilder had a No contest against Kauffman (failed drugs test), a draw against Kassi and a win against Harper.

    Szpilka had a four fight win streak since his last lose going into his title shot against Wilder. The wins were over Consuegra, Quezada, Cobb and Adamek.

    Duhaupas had one win since his last lose going into his title fight with Wilder and that win was against Charr.
     
  7. Twentyman

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    You tried your best but you’re not selling it to me. He’s done nothing.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't get me wrong, if you were to hand pick opponent for AJ out of the top 10/15 for AJ to look good and that's styles wise the matchup should be a easy fight for him then I would choose Knownacki followed by Miller. I can't see anything than a very one sided fight and I would surprised if this goes to the later rounds.

    However as far as earning a title shot goes I think Miller resume is most deserving after Whyte in the divison. Especially considering Wilder previous title challengers records going into the fights.
     
  9. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Middle of last year i predicted AJs next 3 fights would be Povetkin then Whyte then his USA debut v Miller....

    Like Meatloaf said '2 outta 3 aint bad'...

    I would not be surprised in slightest if the AJ v Klit 2 happens this autumn
     
  10. TonyHayers

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    I'm not saying people have to be happy about it.

    I'm saying looking at it in the context of who is available, who Joshua hasn't already easily beaten, and who previous unified champions have taken on as challengers, I really don't see how it stands out as being particularly terrible.
     
  11. TonyHayers

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    He's clearly done very similar to plenty of others who have fought for a world title in fairness.
     
  12. Hattonmad

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    The win streak you mentioned is shocking and the criteria for a title shot even worse. If knocking over a few cans is what's required to get a shot at three belts, we're in for an extremely dull era.

    Ortiz, Pulev and Whyte are all more deserved because tomatoe can win streaks mean feck all. There's no harm in stepping up and losing to the best, especially in Ortiz's case as he nearly beat Wilder. Ortiz would've been a great American debut for me.

    None of the guys you mentioned in a previous post deserved a title shot, except Fury of course which was a bizarre comparison considering he won all but one of the belts and never lost them in the ring. Miller is the same as all those other defences you listed, i.e., not good enough!

    Anyway this isn't about Jarrel Miller. Never was. He's being used to make AJ look good in America but getting well paid so he's also a winner. Hearn, AJ and Miller win here. The fans and integrity of the sport do not.

    It's not that big a deal. There's been worse defences. However, that doesn't mean we should all smile and be happy about it like @TonyHayers wishes. This is a boxing forum where fans are supposed to debate the decisions boxers and promoters make. If we can't do that, we have no forum. So people need to wise up and start calling things for what they are instead of trying to censor everything. It's getting like North Korea on here some days. Thank God there's still plenty of decent posters who can see beyond Eddie Hearn's brown star.
     
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  13. Mitch87

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    Ortiz had a questionable resume going into the Wilder title shot and lost it and hasnt done anything of note since. Ortiz doesn't derserve another title shot. Pulev does derserve a title shot amongst the likes of Whyte and Miller.
     
  14. Hattonmad

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    It's a stronger resume than Miller's for sure and his excellent performance against Wilder proved he's among the top contenders. Definitely more deserved than Miller!

    What's wrong with saying Miller doesn't deserve the shot? It's a fact like. He's not mandatory and nobody except Hearn called for the fight to be made.

    It's a soft defence to make AJ look good in America. Call it excellent promotion if you like, as I have done. Just don't call it a worthy defence because it's not.
     
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  15. Mitch87

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    Miller is a hand pick opponent that suits AJ peferfectly style wise. However Miller's win streak after Whyte and along side Pulev is a legit contender for a title shot and more deserving than others fighter mentioned . Certianly more deserving than nearly all of Wilders title challengers.