AJ v Ngannou

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  1. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder is 38 years old and virtually retired himself BEFORE the Joey 12 farce having had only ONE round since Fury 3, the greatest Heavyweight Fight in the era.

    Joshua is the Heavyweight version of Connor Henn - just check the CV and apply context at the date of the fight.

    Both are old men and zero risk fight specialists.
     
  2. Mitch87

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    It was the same Wilder we saw that fought and struggled losing rounds to Washington and Spzilka. The difference this time is that Wilder actually fought a world level boxer, Wilder has never been a world level boxer (whilst had had beaten 6).

    Wilder signed 3 fight deal with the Saudis and still has two more fights. Not retired.
     
  3. Beale

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    According to you Wilder is Benjamin Button.

    That 3 fight deal must be the worst signing in history if we exclude the Sam Lammers transfer to the Glorious Glasgow Rangers.
     
  4. Mitch87

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    Never said Wilder was improving. Just that we saw the same weaknesses in that fight as Wilder has displayed his whole career. This time he was against world level boxer instead of cherry picked tin can and was able to exploit Wilders many weaknesses.
     
  5. Beale

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    Yet Joyce who the Matchroom Mob on here have down as very poor yet he absolutely obliterated Joey 12. Obliterated I say!!!

    World Class LOL

    Joey 12 not much better than Hughie 'The Skirt' Fury and he is British Level at best.

    You will be telling me that Dillian Whyte is also World Class next LOL
     
  6. Manning

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    Whyte at his peak was a clear top 10 fighter so he was certainly at World level. Clearly a very crude fighter but he worked his way into that position. His fight with Parker proved he's at World level. Wilder crumbled against the same man.
     
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  7. Mitch87

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  8. Beale

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    Washed up Wilder finito after the Fury trilogy, old man at 38 and fought one round since - there is no coming back and Fury 3 should have been his final fight.

    There is no coming back at that age with that level of inactivity.

    If you don't believe me, check what Rob McCracken told Carl Froch thinking of making a comeback 1 year after retirement when 36 years of age.

    Not an elite trait between any of the 2nd rate boxers including Whyte, Chisora, Hughie Fury, Joshua, Parker, Povetkin, Wallin, Franklin or Helenius. Wilder at least had one elite trait - world class power.

    Since the Klitschko reign ended, only 2 elite World Heavyweight Boxers have emerged Tyson Fury and Usyk.
     
  9. Beale

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    Matchroom specialise in out of date tesco baked beans tin cans.

    Joshua and Benn have made a career out of these.
     
  10. Beale

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    Zhang calls out Joshua and he quickly arranges a fight with Ngannou to avoid it - ducker.
     
  11. Mitch87

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    Wilder has a elite power but extremely blinited.

    Weaknesses that Wilder displayed throughout of his career:
    - Poor technically
    - Poor ring IQ
    - poor footwork crossing feet etc
    - Glass chin
    - Can't box on inside

    Wilders record of win in terms of quality opponents is poor against Parker and Whyte

    Parker would beaten Wilder at any point of his career. Every time Wilder stepped to world level Wilder lost.
     
  12. Beale

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    Wrong again.

    Only TWO elite boxers emerged since the end of the Klitschko era being Fury and Usyk yet Wilder has a draw with one of them and very unlucky not to get the stoppage in 2 of the 3 fights against said elite boxer.
     
  13. Mitch87

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    I would have preferred AJ vs Zhang.

    However I understand why the Saudi's where more keen on the on the bigger money fight. Whilst for AJ it's bragging rights of AJ makes easy work of a guy who arguably should have beaten Fury.
     
  14. Beale

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    Cannot take Whyte serious after his performance against Fury at Wembley.

    Ronnie Barker looked more of a World Level Boxer when he put the gloves on in Porridge.
     
  15. Mitch87

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    Wilder didn't deserve the draw, he should have lost clearly on points (Wilder only won the rounds he dropped Fury). You can't ignore that AJ has deepest and best record at HW to ignore him as elite.

    AJ beaten 6 world level opponents better than anyone Wilder has beaten.

    If Wilder beats Zhang then yes clearly not past it and Parker was and always has been better.