AJ v Ngannou

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  1. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a feeling that aj will destroy him.. I don't think ngannou will be hard to find, is about the same height (aj struggles with shorter fighter imo). I think he will be well suited to francis. If AJ can't hurt him he could be in trouble but I suspect that aj will be too active and will connect too often. Ngannou's punch output isn't high enough imo
     
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  2. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dunno this bloke looks trouble to me.

    His reach is longer as well.

    He looks like and is built like an African rhino.

    Will be interesting to see if it was a one off or there is more to him than meets the eye.

    Agree though needs to throw more punches and be busier which is what ultimately cost him against fury.

    Fascinating stuff.
     
  3. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well if he likes trilogies that much there is still a little fat mexican he's one one with.
     
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  4. kevin-novice

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    I don't think he would lose again..the rematch showed us that.
     
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  5. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's find out then.
     
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  6. CheersForThat

    CheersForThat Boxing Kid Full Member

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    True, but it would still be funny and entertaining if Ngannou were to beat AJ.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "aj struggles with shorter fighter imo"

    The only same size or taller fighters that Joshua's fought post-Cornish have been 41 Wlad (11 rounds of life and death), Breazeale (7 rounds, Wilder took 1) and 39 Helenius (7 rounds, Wilder took 1, Helenius busted Joshua's nose and eyes with jabs).

    Joshua's been beaten three times by shorter fighters probably because most of the best fighters he's fought have been shorter. If anything, the fact that he's fought so many shorter fighters is evidence that Joshua's matchmakers see them as being less threatening for Joshua.

    Ngannou had stamina problems in the UFC and I have no doubt that his engine is still relatively poor but the only boxing match he's had has been against Fury, who is good at limiting the output of his opponents. Perhaps Ngannou will be more active against Joshua, one fight is not much of a sample.
     
  8. kevin-novice

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    He beat Fury and everyone but 2 of the judges saw it.
     
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  9. Jamesofthenorth

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    Joshua will flatten him. Just as N'gannou was a novice before Fury, he's a novice now. Fury was just beyond **** that night (I'm still not convinced the Usyk fight happens, but that's another story) probably hadn't trained much, and was only there for the money. I hope Joshua annihilates him and puts an end to this crossover nonsense. It's boring.
     
  10. Ding ding ding!

    Ding ding ding! Active Member Full Member

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    Which 5 rounds did you give him out of interest? I struggled to give him more than 3.
     
  11. kevin-novice

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    Just thought he out boxed him overall and obviously got the 10-8 too.
     
  12. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is plenty of shorter guys that aj has struggled to land on as effectively as he does the taller fighters... (not taller than him but still taller). Parker, takam, povetkin, ruiz were are short guys for hw division and aj had problems with all.

    I still believe aj will be able to land more often, land cleaner and more often. I expect stoppage by aj late on
     
  13. Redbeard7

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    Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz are some of his best opponents though, better than Breazeale or Helenius. The only tall opponent Joshua's fought in that class or better is Wlad and he gave Joshua his most difficult fight that he didn't lose.

    The odds say that Joshua should stop Ngannou, about 70% last time I checked. But I don't believe that Ngannou being not far off as tall with longer reach and considerably heavier is an advantage for Joshua.
     
  14. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But wlad was also one of the fighters that he had success landing on and was considerably better than almost anyone he has fought. Yes wlad was also able to land on him but the point I was making is that i think aj is able to land on the taller guys easier and more frequently than the shorter ones.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

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    Against Helenius, Joshua said to James "I can't land the right hand" between one of the rounds. He eventually landed it in 7 after Helenius showed down. I don't think Joshua had much problem with Takam, that was overstated based on the Joshua hype at the time and not stopping him conclusively after 10 rounds but Takam gave the similar size Povetkin and Chisora far more problems.

    Taller opponents may be easier to land on if they're more stationary, less agile, less fit etc. but I don't think Joshua "does better" against them, or at least there's not a large enough sample size as his only same size or bigger quality opponent is 41 Wlad. Ironically, Wlad was also said by many to be better against taller opponents, based on destroying Austin, Jefferson, dominating McCline and Wach and having a somewhat difficult fight with Thompson. Height and reach broadly equate to range, weight (which Ruiz had in abundance) to strength, durability and power, so even if Joshua is more able to land he should be more concerned with what's coming back at him against a good big opponent.
     
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