AJ v Povetkin likely to be next

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  1. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Well hopefully AJ doesn't pull a Wilder and make up some trumped up ped charges to get out of fighting him..

    All depends if AJ doesn't mind paying the 4.3 million to get away with it..
     
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  2. micker1

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    I can't complain with povetkin. Joshua is pretty much fighting everyone. Povetkin is his mandatory so if he gets that out of the way then fights wilder he can then build the fury fight.
     
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  3. Luis Fernando

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    This is an ugly, almost unreal and other worldly type of a mismatch. Anthony Joshua could literally, and I mean literally eat, devour and digest Povetkin like a snack. Sort of like a Godzilla or a T-REX vs a small mouse inside a Colosseum in a one on one fight to death. Except this mouse (Alexander Povetkin) will be charging right towards this T-REX / Godzilla (Anthony Joshua), only begging and asking to be destroyed and to have its existence ended by the T-REX / Godzilla (Anthony Joshua).

    At least if Povetkin came to survive, he could prevent getting destroyed gruesomely, disgustingly and in horror like fashion and could instead lose on points or through less damage suffered. However, to his own downfall, Povetkin will come forward and beg to be a victim of one of the most disgusting sights in boxing history.
     
  4. BCS8

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    :lol:

    Wilder ducked Povetkin so badly that they're still scrubbing the skid marks off the runway ... and out of his underwear. Povetkin > Wilder and this is the better fight.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

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    You've had to twists things badly to suit your opinion. 4 months away is just the minimum amount of time for the fight to happen. It's obvious for some time that Wilder plans on fighting Breazeale next in July/Aug as stated by Breazeale himself, that 4 month gap is actually a 4-8 month gap, which gives Wilder plenty of time to squeeze in the Breazeale fight. Hence why it's pretty clear to anyone who can read between the lines the 50 mill offer was for a fight after Wilder had fought Breazeale which proves my original view that the 50 mill offer was for late 2018 and that neither side wants the fight next.

    I backed up my words with facts, from a reliable source but you've swallowed Wilder PR and twisted facts from Finkel himself to suit your opinion. How is Sept-Dec not late 2018, you might not agree with my definition but I personally regard the last 4 months of 2018 as being late 2018 in regards to making a fight. If you are planning to fight 3 times per year then the last 3rd of a year is clearly late 2018 in my opinion.

    Wilder asked for 40% and while we may have thought Parker got about 33% from Hearns recent words it seems Parker didn't get anywhere near that as apparently he got less than half of the $12.5 mill Hearn offered Wilder.

    Now the flat fee was bull****, but it was never, meant to be accepted, it was an opening offer to start negotiations. But did Finkel respond in 48 hours to the offer like he said and make a counter offer? No he did not and he didn't even come back with anything after the 10 day time limit Hearn put on the offer.

    Then the $50 mill offer came with a 24 hr time limit to accept, who ever does that? Hearn and Joshua did accept in principle though you choose to ignore that small fact and they then asked for a meeting, contracts or further details all of this was refused from Wilder's team.

    Fact is you focus on what Hearn and Joshua have done wrong and falsely choose to believe only one side is delaying the fight, when it's clear neither side want it. You are allowing your own personal bias colour your opinion, where's the same scrutiny on Wilder's teams actions as you have given Hearn and Joshua? Answer is you haven't scrutinised their actions as you have with Hearn and Joshua because it doesn't suit your opinion.
     
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  6. WalcottsBentFace

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    Povetkin has a good shot.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    I think so. He's past his prime but he's still knocking guys the F out. He's got a good engine and chin, and I think if he makes it past the 4th he may well stop a gassing AJ.
     
  8. Farmboxer

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    Wilder refused to fight Povetkin because he was afraid and would have been knocked out. He begged the WBC to cancel the fight before VADA made a mistake, Povetkin was framed, but then quickly cleared, yet Haymon's WBC would not allow Povetkin to go near Wilder...................then, finally the Povetkin was proven innocent in court, so Wilder should have been ordered to fight Povetkin instead of Joshua. This could be an interesting fight with Joshua, better than Pulev. Wilder does not want to fight Joshua, he had signed to fight Breazeale a long time ago as I had posted, Haymon owns Breazeale, Joshua easily knocked Breazeale out, Breazeale has a china chin, no defense, can't fight at all, the perfect opponent for Wilder......................
     
  9. Brighton bomber

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    I suspect the fight will be relatively one sided and Joshua to KO Povetkin inside 6 rounds. But fact is other than Wilder, Povetkin is the best opponent available. Joshua may not be fighting Wilder next but at least he isn't using that as an excuse to set up an easy opponent.

    If Joshua/Povetkin is next it only adds to Joshua's resume and adds to the idea that Joshua is looking to always fight quality opposition when he can.
     
  10. WalcottsBentFace

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    Yep. His shots will have more effect than Parkers and he’ll invest early to the body I bet.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

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    I actually think Breazeale could be a quite dangerous opponent for Wilder. It's not the fight we want or even the next best fight as Whyte would be a better opponent, but Breazeale is no push over. He's big, he's strong, can take a punch and is dangerous when hurt. While I favour Wilder to stop Breazeale if Wilder thinks he'll just walk through Breazeale he'll be in for a shock.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Joshua easily knocked Breazeale out, it was no contest. Haymon owns Breazeale, Breazeale will have to do what Haymon tells him to do, including taking a dive if needed. Even if Breazeale could somehow compete with Wilder, Haymon will not allow him to lose that fight, no way...................
     
  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    There is good reason why the focus is on AJ/Hearn. They are the only ones who have come out and stated they wish to delay the fight until the time is right. Barry Hearn the kingpin of matchroom publicly begged Joshua not to fight Wilder.

    Has Al Haymon or Finkel ever come out and begged Wilder not to fight Joshua?

    The focus is on them, because they are the ones who have put endless amount of hurdles in place to prevent the fight from happening. From hanging Whyte in front of Wilder, to saying the fight needs to be built up, to wilder needing to increase his profile, to now saying that accepting a 50 million offer means selling one's soul as well as titles.

    If Wilder was coming out and making these kind of comments stating that he will fight AJ when he is ready and won't be rushed into it, you can be sure I'd be the first of many to call him a ducking coward who should be stripped of his titles for blatant cowardice.

    Do you think Wladimir ever hestited when he was challenged for his titles? He took on all without any excuses, in victory and defeat because he was a real Champion. Not a paper one.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    Hearn is just being honest when he says he wants the fight delayed to build the revenue, he could lie the the fans like Wilder and Finkel does but he chooses not to treat the fans like mugs.

    Wilder and Finkel may not say they want to delay the fight but their actions suggest otherwise. Wilder was ringside for Joshua/Wlad to let them know he wanted to be next, yet when there stirred up beef with Bellew and said he wanted to unify with Parker first before fighting Joshua. Does that sound like a fighter who wants the fight next.

    Wilder's offer wasn't for summer 2018 it was for Autumn/winter 2018. Wilder again just talking bull**** about being next but the actual offer he gave was for a fight after he squeezed in Breazeale.

    Again you've chosen to believe the Wilder PR. He says he wants it next so it must be true despite his actual actions proving otherwise. You'd realise this if you bothered to scrutinise his actions rather than to just believe everything that comes from team Wilder.

    Wilder is making these statements about Whyte though. He won't fight Whyte unless it's for stupid money, he won't fight Whyte unless Whyte beats Ortiz first or AJ fight is guaranteed next. He has a top contender right now wanting the fight and offering a record payday but does he take it, nope, he puts obstacles in the way to prevent the fight happening.
     
  15. Luis Fernando

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    Actually, Anthony Joshua deserves no credit for beating an undersized midget like Alexander Povetkin who has always been a blown up cruiser weight / light heavyweight and never a legitimate credible SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT worthy to be competing in the same weight division as someone like Anthony Joshua. A win against Povetkin adds nothing to Joshua's resume whatsover.

    Anything short of Anthony Joshua literally stomping and squashing Povetkin like a little insect in a matter of seconds has to be seen as an embarrassing failure from Joshua's behalf.

    Povetkin is an insanely easy opponent for a REAL SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT like Anthony Joshua who knows how to use his size advantages. Dominic Breazeale is arguably a better opponent than Povetkin. Same with Hughie Fury, Kubrat Pulev, Jarrell Miller and etc. All who are REAL, LEGITIMATE and CREDIBLE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS unlike a midget like Povetkin who should consider dropping back down to his natural weight division at cruiser weight or light heavyweight whilst letting the SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS fight among each other.

    If Joshua even remotely struggles to beat an ancient Povetkin who is also a relative midget. Or has even slight difficulties at beating him, then he deserves insane amount of criticism. That is, Joshua can't get hit by a single hurtful punch from Povetkin or be hurt at all throughout the entire fight. Joshua also can't struggle to not just KO, but gruesomely, disgustingly and brutally KO Povetkin and not take too long either at doing so.

    And if Joshua can't brutally KO someone as small, weak, fragile and lacking in durability as a midget like Povetkin whilst he possesses significant size advantages, then Joshua must be considered a feather fist. And even if he does KO Povetkin, it still won't be enough unless he does it with a very few punches and in a very short amount of time.