AJ v Povetkin likely to be next

Which small heavyweight close to the age of 40, defeated the best and number 1 heavyweight in the world whilst being significantly out sized in height, weight and reach and whilst being 10+ years older? Good luck finding me even one because I doubt this ever happened!

Just to keep things in perspective:

Mike Tyson by this same age was losing to bums like Danny Williams and journeymen like Kevin McBride.

Evander Holyfield by this same age was losing to the likes of John Ruiz and Larry Donald.

Muhammad Ali by this same age was losing to the likes of Leon Spinks.

Lennox Lewis is much bigger in size than Povetkin but was still knocked out brutally by smaller opponents and was retired before reaching the current age of Povetkin.

History dictates that Povetkin should not only lose to someone at the caliber of Anthony Joshua by this stage of his career, but should have also lost to his last two or three opponents like David Price and Christian Hammer (if he was at the level of the likes of Holyfield, Mike Tyson and etc.) But he didn't! I wonder why?

 

Nope , Povetkin >> Pulev.. Thats a fact regardless of your troll opinion.

Wlad is not a guy to show mercy in the ring. He's very proud of his stoppage ratio and fights in a style designed to flatten the opponent.
You don't know anything about Wladimir Klitschko.

He was unable to beat Povetkin in a fair and clean manner because he was just not good enough. In a fair fought fight with a real referee , Pov would have sparked him clean out.
If you watched his career , you'd see he couldn't beat a fat useless bum like Sam Peters without chronic cheating and fouling as well.
The Povetkin cheat fest was in keeping with all his other circus performances.

 

History dictates that Vitali shouldn't have lost to a 205 pound Chris Byrd. History dictates that Vitali shouldn't have lost the passing of the torch fight against the previous era's washed up champion.

 

Povetkin has the skills and the power to destroy Joshua. Only things against him are his age and reach.

 

It's not a fact! Pulev is better and more suited for the modern heavyweight division than Povetkin is. And Wlad's win over Pulev is more impressive than his win over Povetkin. Povetkin is a better boxer, only in a pound for pound sense.

It is you who doesn't have much knowledge about Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir Klitschko rarely goes for knockouts. He chooses to box his opponents. He prefers to not inflict much damage on his opponents on purpose but the knockouts still come as a result of his punching power and offensive skills. If Wladimir Klitschko was as keen on knocking out his opponents as you seem to suggest, he would fight more aggressively more frequently. There is a reason why he doesn't! Because he prefers winning fights by out-boxing his opponents rather than by knocking them out (even though the knockouts still often come).

Wladimir Klitschko was good enough to drop Povetkin with a single, glancing and half ass / half committed left hook. Probably even less than that. There is no reason why Wladimir Klitschko couldn't do what he did to Kubrat Pulev (IF HE REALLY WANTED TO). He simply chose not to, and this was evident by his lack of output and commitment to power punches. This was totally contrary to what he did against Kubrat Pulev.

Wladimir Klitschko fought uncharacteristically against Kubrat Pulev. Unlike in any other fight I've seen of him in the last decade, he fought more aggressively and was more committed to power punches than in any of his other fights in the last decade. Because they genuinely had problems with each other at a personal level which went beyond the sport of boxing.

On the other hand, Wladimir Klitschko's performance against Povetkin was one of his least aggressive performances of the last decade.

 

Do you have problems sticking to one topic? You're bringing up points all over the place. First you bring up Wladimir Klitschko and now you bring up Vitali Klitschko. What has Vitali Klitschko got to do with anything being discussed?

There have been worse losses than Vitali Klitschko losing to Chris Byrd at heavyweight.

 

Skills are irrelevant because there are many boxers who are more skilled than Joshua but still wouldn't stand much of a chance at beating him.

A small heavyweight like Povetkin doesn't stand much, if any chance at beating a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT who knows how to use his size advantage properly.

I'll have to reassess how good Joshua is if Joshua can't not only beat, but beat Povetkin with the utmost ease with practically 0 difficulties in a gruesome / disgusting / brutal manner.

 

Povektins best wins -

Chageav
Chambers
Mark Hock
Manny Charr
Carlos Tackam
Mike Perez
Chris Hammer


Pulevs best wins -

Dimentriko
Peter - beaten by Chambers
Kevin Johnson - beaten by Hammer
Ustinov - beaten by Charr

Povetkin >> Pulev . FACT!

 

You have to wonder? If the semi professional plumber David Price, was able to stagger Povetkin across the ring? Then a blow from the bodybuilder could prove deadly.

 

Lie.

Pulev was stood in one position with his arms flopping about in the air. He was basically asking Wlad to end him with a left hook.

Povetkin was constantly moving forward dipping at the waist and using head movement , thus Wlad was not able to hit him so easily. The forward momentum of Povevtin forced Wlad to approach the fight using back breakers , bear hugs , and octopus techniques to compensate for glaring lack of skills.
You ydksab.

 

Just remember to give Povetkin props if he beats AJ.

 

I have to say that Dino is right on two things here:

1) Povetkin > Pulev
2) Wlad fighting Povetkin without the Dr Octopus tactics would have been a lot closer and fairer.

 

There was nothing stopping Wladimir Klitshcko from throwing more punches, except his own choice of choosing to be less aggressive.

Pulev was moving in an out. He wasn't just standing there. Wladimir Klitschko was loading full weight into his punches from the very first round (and even missing some). Whereas Wladimir Klitschko hardly did such a thing against Povetkin. Because he chose to take it easier on Povetkin than Pulev.

Povetkin was practically out on his feet many times in the fight helplessly, begging to be knocked out like Pulev was. But unlike against Pulev, Wlad didn't increase the aggression to take Povetkin out on purpose because he chose to go the distance.

Again, when Povetkin was stunned and out on his feet, there was nothing stopping Wlad from being more aggressive and throwing more punches, except his own choice. And this happened multiple times in the fight. Go ahead and rewatch the fight to see for yourself.

 

Fair enough! Povetkin has a better resume. But Pulev is the better head to head boxer as far as I'm concerned.

 

If Povetkin beats Joshua, it'd either be because of the two things:

1) Alexander Povetkin is such a special boxer that he is able to do something no past heavyweight has ever done.

2) Anthony Joshua is such a uniquely horrible boxer that he failed to accomplish something that no other past heavyweight at his stage ever failed to accomplish.

Povetkin deserves credit from me regardless. I'd have him at least a top ten heavyweight of all time and perhaps somewhere close to the top 5 if he beats Anthony Joshua. Since it'd be an unparalleled accomplishment.

I'm merely holding AJ fanboys to their own standard. Those who are claiming Joshua would easily beat Povetkin. If Joshua doesn't fulfill this standard, then they must be forced to admit that Joshua is not as good as what they initially thought and can't then change their standards by claiming Povetkin is all of a sudden a great boxer when that wasn't the case before the fight.