AJ v Ruiz £25 box office

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  1. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    'You're.'

    What stops them caring after he's lost to a visually fat bloke already? By the time Tyson fought Lewis he'd been in jail, lost twice to an old Holyfield who'd been beaten by Moorer and Bowe, beaten nobody of note for years and lost more than a decade ago against an essential nobody in the form of Douglas. It was still massive.

    People will be interested in massive punching heavyweights for as long as people have an interest in boxing. Domestically people were still massively interested in Frank Bruno when he rematched Tyson despite having lost on seemingly every occasion he stepped up.

    People are clearly desperate for Joshua/Matchroom to fail, but all evidence suggests they won't.
     
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  2. channy

    channy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You jammy tawt you got a Mr Blobby Pen, all I got was a spice girls calendar and a just eat voucher!!
     
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  3. KingKO

    KingKO El Terrible Full Member

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    This is very much true.

    You only have to look at the likes of Whyte, Chisora and Price who have gone on to be bigger 'stars' on the back of losses.

    I think Joshua's vulnerability will placate all fans, even the casuals who thought he was invincible and he'll continue to rack up PPV sales but selling out Wembley won't be as easy after a few losses unless it's against Wilder or Fury.

    Everyone loves the drama of the heavyweights.
     
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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Hey Fatty Boom Boom Full Member

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    You're.'

    Really?
     
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  5. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Indeed. People are allowing their personal feelings around Joshua/Matchroom to cloud their judgement. In a world where serial-loser Dereck Chisroa fighting Dillian Whyte - recently seen rendered unconscious - can sell as many PPV numbers as they did, Joshua himself isn't suddenly going to become unpopular. Tony Bellew had been splattered at light heavy, fought a dismal fight with Cleverly, and then fought David Haye who had fought nobody but nobodies for years, had an absolute stinker himself against Klitschko and lost early in his career. Sold an absolute boatload.

    The only way Joshua isn't doing big PPV numbers next year is if he retires. Even if Ruiz beats him, the decision to carry on will mean he does serious business.
     
  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Hey Fatty Boom Boom Full Member

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    You seem to be using American comparisons here
    The two fan bases have a different mind set imo
    Not comparable
    Although you clearly dont agree

    Bruno was everyones favourite loser and the 80s and 90s fan would pay for such a character
    Not so much today

    Im not desperate for anyone to fail
    But yes id enjoy watching matchroom fall about now
    Enjoy and being desperate are not the same
     
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  7. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Okay, I'll use British comparisons then.

    Haye and Bellew had lost a few between them and sold loads.
    Whyte had been destroyed by Joshua and Chisora had lost about half a dozen fights if not more and sold loads.
    Lewis had lost against McCall and Rahman and sold loads.

    Why is Joshua any different?
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Hey Fatty Boom Boom Full Member

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    Del boy has reinvented himself with matchrooms help
    Go back to before the 1st Whyte fight and he sold very little
    Haye and Bellew was at on the surface at least a genuine grudge fight, those will always sell
    Lewis and Rahman to be honest ive no idea how it did and if it did well cant explain that

    Josuha to be as popular as he is has to have more than your average fan on side and the flip side of gaining such fans is they are fair weathered

    Thats my view of what could possibly happen if he loses
     
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, but losing have not increased his stock.
    The 5 pound price raise is because he might be retired soon and the AJ gravy train for SKY/Matchroom comes to a halt before reaching the originally scheduled destination.
    That is all that is happening here.
    No need for a debate.
    They fear the end is nigh.
     
  10. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The reality is Joshua, based on tickets and PPV's sold, is the most popular British fighter ever. He's just not suddenly going to become a nobody if he loses a few fights.

    We'll no doubt see, but my prediction is that this sells a load and does massive business. If Joshua loses, he'll fight someone like Chisora next year (if he decides he's not going to retire of course), which will be on PPV. That'll do big business. If he wins he's back to being a unified world champion and talk no doubt ramps up once again for the Fury/Wilder fight. Every fight he has from now on is twenty five quid minimum.
     
  11. Twentyman

    Twentyman Get to bed you sleep dossers. Full Member

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    Ah come on, Tone, you don’t have to try and undermine other posters opinions by highlighting their grammar. This should be one platform where people should feel comfortable putting their points across without feeling like they’re back in school or writing an academic paper.
     
  12. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely mate.

    The power is ultimately with the customer - Sky need our money to exist and the world would survive no problem should Sky go out of bizthness tomorrow.

    Educated people see through all the marketing and spin looking at the objectives and outcomes of said marketing and spin.

    The obscene amounts of PPV loot accumulated by Tony Dosh PPV is unthinkable and even Puddings Whyte and Chisora are multi millionaires worth an absolute fortune.

    Never has so many, paid so much, to benefit so few.

    The mugths are so thick they keep forking out time and again for garbage because Edwina sells them a pup.
     
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  13. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tony Hayers is a TOSSER

    Write that 100 times as a punishment mate
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Hey Fatty Boom Boom Full Member

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    It obviously gave him a cheap kick
    No offence taken but i did not expect it from him tbh
    I shall just use my fiver i save from the next PPV offering to buy a grammar for dummies book
    Cheers Tone
    Without your guidance id be struggling in life
     
  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Hey Fatty Boom Boom Full Member

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    Who said he will become a nobody?
    Not seen that typed anywhere

    And if AJ Vs Del is 25 quid i shall laugh at the clowns stupid enough to pay for it
     
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