AJ Versus Witherspoon ?

I'm beginning to think so.

 

I think it goes full 12. AJ is smart enough now not to be too agressive against as dangerous fighter as prime Spoon. He'd be boxing from distance. Spoon is better than Parker, and has fine chin. But will he be able to land his powerful right hand on AJ's chin repeatedly? AJ on his side is tougher than Bruno, who never managed to get up to win the fight.

AJ vs Spoon in London - most likely AJ by decision.

 

Spoon by a contentious split decision.

But AJ, i think, will still improve, whereas Spoon is peak Spoon. Dont tell me there is no peak Spoon. This is not the Matrix.

 

Witherspoon at his best should beat AJ comfortably.
But Witherspoon was fat and out of shape against Bruno, so AJ has a decent chance.

 

At this point I favour Spoon

 

While I'm convinced Joshua is the best out there in 2018, I'm not sure about him on a few things. I'm sold on his power, size, and skills.

I'm not sold on Joshua's chin, stamina in the later rounds, or ability to deal with mobile opponents. I suspect all of the above are just " ok " areas in his game; we'll have to wait until he faces an opponent in his prime that can punch and is willing to risk a bit to find out more.

I was hoping the Parker fight would answer some of those questions, but Parker played it safe, risking very little. The guy wasted his shot, and appears to have been over rated.

Personally, I think Povetkin has a good chance to pull off the upset, even if he'll be 39 when they meet.

Timmy is hard to predict fighter; when he was motivated and in shape, he was excellent. A pretty big guy ( He'd be 10 pounds heavier today ) who can box, punch, take a punch, Witherspoon also had a gym like Philly type of defense.

I rate Witherspoon 3rd best of the 1980's behind Larry Holmes who just edged him, and Mike Tyson, who Don King never wanted to match Witherspoon with. Witherspoon is a top 30 ATG in my book.

Who wins here? For now I'd lean on Joshua via split decision, but in 3 years from now, I think all of us could make a better call.

 

First off how can you not be sold on Joshua’s stamina or chin when he took the best off ATG Klitschko and managed to turn it up in the later rounds. No one in the world besides Joshua would have beaten Klitschko that night. Joshua is cleaning out the division. He has already beaten 5 of the ring magazines top 10, most of them in their prime.

Povetkin will get shattered by Joshua. Glass jaw price nearly knocked out povetkin. Price is garbage. Povetkin doesn’t have the height or physical tools to compete with Joshua. Wlad shutout povetkin easily using his height and reach.

If Joshua povetkin get matched up. Let’s see if PEDvkin tests positive for steroids once again, as that might be the only chance he has left to beat Joshua.




I’ve never seen Witherspoon so overrated in my life. Top 30?

Why would he be 10lb heavier today? He went into enough fights with man boobs and a roll of flab around his midsection.

You rate Timmy so highly, where does pinklon Thomas rate? Thomas abused a prime Witherspoon with his left hand for 12 rounds..Thomas couldn’t miss spoon all night.

Tyson didn’t want to match witherspoon? Funniest thing I’ve heard in a while. Timmy had his chance to unify against Tyson, but he got his chin checkered by bonecrusher Smith in 1 rounds. Oh right, you think this was a fixed fight. Where your proof?

And what about Witherspoon’s life or death struggle with Bruno for 11 rounds? The man whom Tyson dominated in 5

Or what about Witherspoon’s 15 round waltz with Tony tubbs, whom Tyson clobbered in 2 rounds?

Your argument of Tyson being afraid to fight Witherspoon has no merit. Tyson defended his title against 3 men whom beat Witherspoon in Holmes, Thomas, and bonecrusher. He also dominated two men tubbs and Bruno both who gave Witherspoon extremely close fights.


Witherspoon would not have matched up well with Tyson in 1987. For 1, Tyson was smack in the middle of his prime while Timmy was abusing drugs and showing up to fights in dreadful shape. Witherspoon did not move his feet much, he fought in the pocket, a dangerous move against a puncher like Tyson. Timmy liked to take one to give one...but you can’t take against a puncher like Tyson. Tyson would have beaten down Witherspoon early. He would join the list of Thomas and Holmes whose iron chins were cracked by Tyson’s finishing ability.

 

AJ at least knows how to defend himself and fight back when hurt, Joshua would win on points. I think Tim would just try and survive once he tasted his speed, power and aggression.

 

I don't think AJ would see the Witherspoon looping right hands and get stopped just like Bruno.

However I also see him being behind on points. Bruno was way better.

Witherspoon was one of the most naturally gifted heavies of my time.

 

Yet he got dominated in his prime by pinklon Thomas. Let’s not make Witherspoon out to be something he wasn’t. A very good contender of the 80s, but not a great fighter.


Tyson would have destroyed him in 87

 

Aj is a lot better than Bruno. Bruno had no stamina, froze against punchers, and had a weak chin

 

I think there is a drop in seasoning with this generation of heavyweight. I still don’t think AJ is quite ready for Witherspoon even now. Later he might be but right now, if that kind of fighter was still around, AJ is not ready.

Yes Joshua looks the part, he’s beginning to tick more and more boxes, but this is a very inexperienced division of top fighters he is mixing with. Martin, Parker, Wilder, we are just not seeing enough from anybody experience wise that says anybody is a finished article right now. They are beginning to get there or they are beginning to run out of time. The era is weak.

I know Witherspoon had not fought many times by the time he fought Larry Holmes but back then the pool of talent that was producing that kind of fighter just had more talent, more experience and more ring sense.

I’m sorry, I just thing Superheavyweight is a real thing. It’s still new. And physically I think we are still seeing an experimental period going on in training and diet that has not quite stabilised yet. It’s like the training and diet is still trying to perfect the optimal balance for the ideal Superheavyweight and that is taking over from actually being able to fight. All the prospects are nursed along in low risk fights until we have a bunch of inexperienced champions. And that’s where we are now. Champions learning on the job.

It is unique time. A 29-0 fighter is realistically not what a 29-0 fighter used to be.

 

Timmy by late stoppage.Aj looks the part but it all looks a bit robotic boxing by numbers .spoon at his best busts him up and stops an exhausted josh late ! .I just think aj runs out of ideas.