AJ vs Eric Molina

With all this debacle going on for AJ i wouldnt be suprised to see him in with Bellew. Tonys built up a little noteriety after the spongebob affair, everyman and his dog is wanting to see him get beat up and if it pops intoTonys mind how feasable it is i reckon he can bully hearn into making this happen.

 

No chance. That would kill the Bellew v Haye fight. That's the money fight.

 

Ye..maybe but it wouldnt suprise me either way.

 

No one should give a **** about Wlad this much anyway.
It's all a bit strange the critcism he's getting here.
I suspect most of it is coming from AJ's fanatics who want AJ to get the chance to smash up an old man with a 'name' to validate himself.
People are crying in disappointment over this, the same ones who were sh!tting on the prospect of Fury-Wlad 2, which at least had a revenge angle to justify interest in the boring old man. And let's be honest, that's not much of an angle.

Sure, AJ-Wlad is a better fight than Browne-Wlad, but it's hardly a mega-fight of the era.
Maybe to the people who lap up the hype.
Wlad's been boring us for years anyway, why the eagerness now to see him? I really believe it's all about seeing AJ bash up the shell of a 'legend', which admittedly would be a hell of a lot more than he's ever done and there's a question mark over him being good enough to even do that.

 

I'd say it's more people wanting to see Wlad 'exposed' - despite the fact that his age means he can't possibly be so - but I take your point. That said, it is yet another body blow for boxing. Casual fans don't turn on to the sport because of these types of fights consistently falling through whilst the likes of the Browne fight get made. And it would have gone some way to passing the torch properly. Fury robbed us of ushering in a new Wlad-less era with a number of exciting stadium filling fights to follow when he decided to opt out of life for a bit.

I was very interested in Wlad vs Fury 2 btw for the aforementioned reason. You probably remember my anger/disappointment in Fury bailing on the rematch.

 

If Wlad beats Browne does that make the AJ fighter bigger in anyway?
If AJ was to beat Wlad now - he would be beating a washed up shot fighter, no?
IF Wlad beats Browne who is arguably one the better heavys in the division does that make any difference at all to the hype of the fight. Anyone can have an off night and Wlad will then have rebounded well if he beats Browne - and he should really.

Molia isn't a great test. Wilder was wildly criticised for it and rightly so...I was happy enough with Breazeale at least he was undefeated this is a 0 interest fight.

After this one he should get the winner or stiverne and povetkin at least that would be a legit world level fight instead of world level fighter vs B level fighter like we see so often

 

Wlad's well beyond the stage of bearing the torch, so the "torch passing" angle would be a fraudulent piece of hype too. If AJ or any other young gun in the division defeats Wlad now, they still have an awful lot to prove - against their peers, not the old guard.

What the heavyweight division - and boxing - needs now is a unification series.
It seems the WBA (due to legal things, I gather) must allow Lucas Browne to contest the WBA title, so it's not really a bad thing if Wlad goes that route, and eliminates Browne right now.
At least Wlad, even at his age, strikes the figure of a credible title-holder.

It would be nice to see Fury back sometime, but we won't be holding our breath.

 

If they beat him in a more convincing manner than Fury, then I think that would help bring some credibility back to the division. Short of that happening, it will remain in limbo for a fair amount of time. If AJ or Parker unify without beating Wlad - which could well happen, with him potentially retiring after picking up another strap - then the spectre of Fury's farcical reign will continue to haunt the division.

Browne and Ortiz should have been mandated to fight each other to remove one from the picture, with the winner then dispatching Oquendo to clear the path to a title shot.

 

Browne is one of the better heavyweights in the division? Seriously? Have you ever seen him fight? Have you ever actually seen any boxing match before?

That has got to be one of the most bizarre statements I have seen on here.

 

Well, if Wladimir's going to fight Browne, it makes sense for Hearn to match Ortiz with AJ.

 

Ha. Who'd be getting the much better end of that deal?

 

I don't know.
Who?

 

Personally I think AJ-Ortiz is a better fight than AJ-Wlad.
Ortiz deserves his chance.

 

Wel one of those fighters poses no risk at all to either Wlad or AJ IMHO. The other is Ortiz, who whilst madly overrated on this site does pose a certain level of threat.

I think both are fortituous to be allowed to fight at such a high level too. The penalties for PEDs would be much more severe if I had my way.

AJ Ortiz is a good fight though. Browne Wlad certainly isn't. Ortiz would be AJ's best win, where would Browne rank on Wlad's CV? Where would Ortiz rank?