AJ vs Joyce: Who takes it?

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce is anything but quick.
     
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  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joyce breaks AJ’s will. Completely and utterly.
     
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  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :eaea:
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Don't be ridiculous.

    Dubois was and still is a prospect - still very one dimensional and whilst he appears to have decent power he has no defence... And he's beaten absolutely no one of note - look at his best wins, I wouldn't even consider Bryan, Dinu or Cojanu as gatekeepers.

    Dudes got great potential but he's nowhere near a top leven fighter just yet.
     
  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Sod it, let's break down just how stupid this is.

    As good as 90% means only 10% of AJ's opponents are better than Dubois.

    AJ has fought 26 fights, of which one so far is a duplicate (Ruiz), so that's 25 opponents.
    10% of 25 is 2.5 fighters, so let's round up to 3 for the sake of it.

    What that means is your statement means you consider Dubois to be as good as all except 3 of those.

    Let's jump straight to the obvious ones - Usyk and Klitschko aren't even up for discussion, they're WAY better than Dubois and probably way better than he'll ever be.

    So after that, what you're saying is only ONE of these is better than Dubois:
    - Povetkin
    - Whyte
    - Parker
    - Pulev
    - Ruiz Jnr

    There's no way he's better than ANY of those, nevermind all except one.

    Heck, go down a level and the likes of Takam, Breazeale, Martin are still better than anyone Dubois has beaten yet.

    YDKSAB.
     
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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Don't mind Mark. He's just a gibbering imbecile is all.
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Typical biased blinded hater, that on top of that knows nothing, not just on boxing, but on body and martial arts as a whole.

    When you throw full power punches with explosiveness on that type of level, and throw it in combo, your gas tank going to be empty in no time, no matter what's your name, and how great of gas tank you have. If you have any martial arts experience or hell knowledge you would have known that.

    AJ had stamina problem due to throwing way too much in single round with the sole exception to get his opponent out of there, and not pacing himself. But that was like 5 years ago. He improved his gas tank tremendously since then, and on top of that, knows how to pace nowadays and it's not so reckless like he was before.
    Parker tried to pressure him, and how that works for him, he was 118-110. Povetking tried that, and AJ was as fresh in the 7th, as he was in the first and KO him. Pulev tried to play that type of game, and even old Pulev is 100x time faster than Joyce, and also have good cardio, how that help him ? He land less than 10 clean punches. AJ was on the back foot against Ruiz and didn't even sweat. He throw more than 600 punches against a guy that is a nightmare to land on, and has one of the highest pace ever, and AJ still go full 12 rounds.
    And again his stamina is going to improve even more, cause he is one of the hardest working guy in the division that constantly strive for improvements.

    Joyce is C level fighter with 430828428948 flaws. He is flat footed, static, slow and with zero defense boxer. He had exactly ZERO chance against AJ.

    AJ is going to pick him apart and either going to KO him brutally or the fight will end in a TKO with Joyce being a bloody mess.

    Joyce never fight anyone on AJ level, hell he never fight on high level competition, AJ is constantly being at. He is also 3 years older than AJ, and they are not in the same league, never was, never will be.

    On top of that boxing is all about stylistic matches, and AJ never had problem with tall guys.
    And while sparring is no judging criteria, and means nothing, this is very telling:
    Also AJ sparks Joyce in 1 round in the amateur as well. He totally destroys him. He battered him around the ring and KO him cold.
    But you can keep dreaming that Joyce has chance against AJ ....

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  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What’s this nonsense?

    Have you replied to the right person?

    We discussed this yesterday where we had a civil debate.
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ain't nobody at HW beating Joyce except Fury or Usyk (the two most dynamic fighters at HW) at this point.

    Disclaimer: I don't like Joyce but he appears to be a near impossible nut to crack (at least with guys currently campaigning)
     
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