AJ vs Prime David Derron Haye

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  1. RB1702

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    Povetkin didn’t really hurt Joshua at all. He knocked him off balance at the end of round 1 and it annoys me people think he was rocked or wobbled when he clearly wasn’t because he walked back to his corner completely fine.

    if AJ has a vulnerable chin then Wilders chin must be made of glass because AJ has taken harder shots from harder hitters and not been as hurt as Wilder was against Ortiz from just a lazy right hook in round 7. Fury been dropped by a guy with a 28% KO ratio and 205 lb Cunningham who moved up from cruiserweight. People only talk about AJ having a weak chin but never mention them two.

    I strongly believe AJ’s chin is decent. He has never avoided hard punchers. He’s literally fought at least 3 top hitting heavyweights compared to Wilder only fighting 1 and Fury only fighting two.
     
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    The three hard hitters we,re 40, 41 and the other ones best win prior was brian minto. Guys with good chins can be hurt and they usually are going over 40 fights etc...like wilder and fury. But joshuas been wobbled a bit from takam, povetkin, wobbled badly against whyte, shut down for about 5 rounds from a left hook by klitchko wiped out by ruiz. Taking away the no hopers hes fought the only guys that haven,t hurt him of any note was breazeale....molina who didnt really throw a punch and parker who was pretty similar and an extremely fat ruiz that couldn,t really catch him and when he did joshua looked shaky. That to me points to his chin being vulnerable at the very least
     
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    He’s already proven he has a better chin than Wilder. Joshua has been hurt by hard punchers. Wilder has been hurt by Molina(twice), Harold Sconiers, Fury(who is a known Pillowfist) and Ortiz(mediocre puncher with a bad gas tank).

    You seem to be quite ignorant mate. Pointing out AJ having a weak chin because he’s been hurt by very hard hitters but saying Wilder has a good chin despite behind hurt by guys who won’t hit nearly as hard as Whyte, Klitschko or Povetkin.

    you want to talk about age? Ortiz is older than Povetkin. Harold Sconiers is a journeyman and Molina wouldn’t be considered a hard puncher in the cruiserweight division. You’re bias is showing. You think Wilder has a good chin but AJ doesn’t despite the fact that AJ has already shown he can take a shot better than Wilder. Say what you want about Joshua but he never would have been out on his feet and put on wobbly legs from a few right hands from Fury.

    Go look at the punishment AJ took in rounds 5 and 6 of Klitschko fight. Wilder would have been sleeping from the shots Wlad landed on Joshua. Wlad already dropped him several times in sparring that’s why Wilder wouldn’t fight him. I think Fury has the best chin out of the 3 but AJ 100% has a better chin than Wilder and it’s just not up for debate it’s pretty much a fact.
     
  4. FuryFTW

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    This is not a tough fight to pick, Haye had plenty of flaws but they weren't ones that would cause him problems vs the bodybuilder.

    Gaye J wouldn't be able to land, and Haye would land on him easily.

    Neither of these men were the bravest, but Haye has more guts than Anthony quitshua, who if he was petrified of a little fat blob would freeze at the thought of eating a hayemaker

    Haye would start cautious but realize AJ is a slow lumbering fraud and leap in, virtually decapitating olufawemi olusani in the 3rd round.
     
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    Lmao no he doesnt

    And heart isn't even a question, juuceshua QUIT after taking half the damage Wilder did vs fury

    Joshua just doesn't have the tools, no heart, no chin, no gas tank.
     
  6. RB1702

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    Joshua was definitely more hurt against Ruiz. I’ve seen your comments. You seem to be the biggest AJ hater I’ve ever seen. You even had the audacity to call Joshua a coward. I always cringe when little keyboard warriors call professional fighters cowards.

    AJ showed a ton of heart to keep get up 4 times while severely concussed and fatigued. You’ve probably never laced a glove before but are happy to call a guy who risks his life in the ring a coward and a quitter?

    Anyway the shots AJ took from Wlad(straight right and left hooks) would have slept Wilder if he couldn’t even take a lazy right hook from Ortiz without going on Bambi legs. AJ definitely has a better chin.
     
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    Haye would have lost on points or been stopped. He wasn’t a world class heavyweight and was too scared to engage against Wlad. Once he felt true heavyweight power from AJ he would have backed off. AJ could keep him on the end of the jab or he could stop him with his devastating combos. Haye did nothing at heavyweight to suggest he would beat Joshua.

    Everyone should literally just take your opinion with a pinch of slat because I seen you say earlier that Chisora would knock AJ out lmao. Absolutely embarrassing take. You just seem to just have it out for Joshua. Literally all you do is hate on the guy. Pipe down lass you’re hate for the guy is sad asf.
     
  8. FuryFTW

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    Lmao keep him on the end of a stuff jab...?

    Ajs jab is one of the most pathetic I've ever seen, it's slow and pawing, Haye slips that easily, and as for his combos, he's slow and plodding and by the time he sets his feet to throw Haye would have taken his head off
     
  9. RB1702

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    Okay whatever. You’re literally saying stuff that isn’t even true. AJ’s combos are brutal and quick and he’s one of the best finishers in the division be yess of his lethal combos. You seem to hate AJ more than you love Fury.

    say what you want about AJ but the dude has never abandoned his family and went on coke benders for weeks at a time. Doesn’t make up mental health stories either to gain publicity.
     
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    Hahaha

    Fury is ur daddy
     
  11. Antsu

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    hmm Joshua wind decission cause hayes low punch volume
     
  12. Wizbit1013

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    Don't even bother with this clown mate
     
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    No ones even really mentioned wilders chin tbh. It is better than joshuas tho. Heavyweights get hurt....furys been hurt, wilders been hurt...joshuas been hurt. Sometimes not even against great guys either...they dont have to be. The difference is....fury recovered quickly every time. Wilder also recovered fairly quickly. Joshua on the other hand....went to sleep for four or five rounds against klitchko, went to sleep for a whole round against whyte....and completely fell apart against ruiz. Out of the three of them joshuas chin is by far the worst...his recoverys terrible.
     
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    Agree, Joshua's chin is Amir Khan level, and it's getting worse, he literally never recovered against Ruiz and Ruiz didn't really pile on immediate pressure, Joshua had an entire round and both breaks and half the next round before Ruiz really attacked again and he was still on ***** street

    His chin is abysmal
     
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  15. RB1702

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    No. Those shots AJ took would have put Wilder to sleep if he couldn’t even take a lazy right hook from a fatigued Ortiz. AJ chin is definitely better it’s been proven.