AJ vs Pulev ? does Pulev have a chance !?

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  1. teej

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  2. CutThroatFade

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    Yeah IMO a very slim chance. I'm surprised so many people on the General Forum have written him off. Whyte had Joshua in a world of trouble. Pulev is better than Whyte. I just hope Pulev brings his a-game and comes to win. Because he ducked huge offers last year to fight Joshua I get the impression he could just be a choker who will come to get KTFO.

    We'll see.
     
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  3. Twentyman

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    I think this would be an impressive scalp on AJ's CV. This fella is a very good boxer and very durable too. AJ deserves credit really for taking the fight, I appreciate he has too but we all know that Hearn could have wriggled him out of this fight if AJ didn't fancy it.

    I think AJ will blast him out but not because Pulev is a tin can, far from it, but AJ has height, reach, speed and power and he will land eventually then its night night.
     
  4. lawslaw

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    Not sure AJ could 'wriggle out' of this UNLESS he was willing to vacate. He has already had to give Pulev step aside money twice.
     
  5. bbjc

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    For me its a resounding no. He was faster in them clips that he is nowadays. The last clip was his debut in 2009....8 years ago when he was 28. Hes 36 now. Slower. Never been athletic. Gets out of puff quicker. And cant really punch. He can box a bit but its all against guys that are even slower than him. Relies on the jab probably overly much and doesnt really have anything to keep joshua off with. I reckon he gets battered round the ring like klitchko did to him. Wont be able to handle an athletic guy.

    Hes a reasonable fighter...but thats about all you can say...another guy that doesnt really do anything that well. People say his boxing...but the most you can say about it is its half decent and thats against slow guys or chisora whos got arms like t rex. Against klitchko his so called masterful boxing didnt get off the ground was too busy getting knocked down twice in the very first round. Think it took klitchko a minute into the fight to put him over.

    I d actually give molina and breazeale a better chance to beat joshua or the guy breazeale beat recently...he could potentially give joshua nightmares...pulevs the better fighter. But he has even less to offer joshua that these two had.

    The only thing going for him against joshua is hes got decent size about him...think hes about 6 foot 4 weighing in around 250 pound. And joshua always has that sleight vulnerability about him with the chin. Being honest tho not seen lots of pulev...but what i have seen not overly impressed. One of them hes slightly better than he looks but cant see him doing much against anyone athletic with a bit speed. Can see it going the same way as molina.
     
  6. liger1992

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    AJ is a better fighter now than when he fought Whyte.
     
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  7. nurological

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    Pulev is too old now. He is very slow and not very mobile which is a perfect Joshua opponent. Pulev just isnt very good anymore.

    This is just a cash out for him so i doubt he really cares
     
  8. Twentyman

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    Bear in mind mate, that version of Klitschko was devastating. That version of Klitschko would have beat AJ...but it's all about the timing of fights and AJ is king at present and Klitschko was past his best. Pulev would be AJ's second best win by a long shot. The next 18 months of heavyweight boxing is looking quite exciting.
     
  9. Twentyman

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    He's knocking on mate but still 5 years younger than Klitschko.
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    Yeah that performance from Wlad was just awesome.

    Forgot to mention that another thing that concerns me about Pulev is his two joke fights with Peter and Johnson. Again adds credence to the view that he is just looking to cash out and swallow the fight. Lost all respect for Pulev after those fights so I don't mind if Joshua gives him a severe beating.
     
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  11. bbjc

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    I ll maybe need to watch a bit more of him twenty. I m knocking the guy...but its only cause i m matching him up against joshua tbh. Your gonna need certain attributes to beat joshua. I just dont think he has them. He,d beat a lot of other guys...hes not a no hoper...but up against joshua i d say he pretty much is.

    Genuinely think boxings not the way to beat joshua...he,ll catch up with you eventually. You,d need to fight the perfect fight.

    The blueprints there...get in there and fight him from the first round.

    A lot of gameplans is take him deep he,ll tire. The problem is their not trying to hit him just trying to stay in till he tyres. Or i ll rephrase that he forces you to do that cause your understandibly hesitant to stand and trade with him. He wont tyre without getting tagged tho. I genuinely think his normal staminas very good. It only goes when hes tagged. So fight him. Throw leather and try to tag that chin. Your gonna need a few attributes...decent size...durability....probably speed and half decent power. Whyte had the perfect game plan and it nearly came off. The only two that had decent game plans we,re whyte and believe it or not gary cornish for me. Didnt work out for cornish but it gave him a far better chance to win than trying to box with joshua.

    Joshuas achilles heel is his punch resistance.

    Its similar to the klitchko problem guys had for years. In the beginning of the klitchko succesful era you we,re shouting at the tv just throw something. Then it became apparent that it wasnt going to work as the years went by because klitchko was the master at distance. Joshua isnt though. You ve got to fight him. Try to push him back. The only problem with that is joshuas pretty much the strongest hardest hitting most athletic heavyweight so right away your up against it. But all you need is that one good punch that,ll change the fight. You ve got to stand and exchange. It was the same with mike tyson.

    They we,re trying to box him on the back foot. Trying to stay out of range. With guys with that much firepower and speed you ve got to stop them coming forward. The boxing usually only works when the hand speeds not great or theirs a size advantage or your footworks very very good.

    Whyte had some very good success with trying to push him back. Joshuas improved but tbh hes the only one thats really tried to push him back. Hes improved against guys that stand off him.
     
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    Sorry for the length of post guys. Using up my lunch typing about boxing. Pretty sure its a disease.
     
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  13. CutThroatFade

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    In light of everything you said above, I've believed for a long time (even after the Scott and Allen fights) that Luis Ortiz would beat Joshua. He has the perfect mix of technical ability and power to beat Joshua IMO.

    Really hope that fight happens next for Joshua.
     
  14. bbjc

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    Now we,re talking mate. Hes definately got problems for joshua to solve. Hes got the durability needed. Big solid lump is ortiz. Good power. Great technical ability....typical cuban.

    What ortiz has got is something that will make joshua at least think about throwing punches. Seen a good bit of ortiz and he likes to works off your aggresion. Sure against jennings he let jennings basically hit him to get his own shots off. He knew he could do more damage than jennings could. Never seen the dave allen fight seen the scott fight tho. Scott actually fought a very good game plan. It was terrible just spoiled but it negated ortiz,s best work. Ortiz excels when you go to him throwing punches. His subtle footworks very good. He works off your aggresion. Joshuas all about aggresion. Right away hes got something that will at least make joshua slightly apprehensive. Theres a danger ortiz is too slow and a bit static could become a punching bag tho. The best way to approach ortiz is trying to keep it long. Pretty sure hes a quality fighter on the inside. The problem joshuas got is he becomes predictable when he keeps it long. Hes much better when he closes the gap. I say ortiz could potentially be a nitemare for him but again looking at that fight it could be the other way around. But ortiz definately has tools there that could potentially cause joshua big problems.

    Fight i d love to see.
     
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  15. Twentyman

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    I'm not disagreeing with you mate. I don't believe Pulev is the man to beat AJ, I'm just saying that imo he'll be his 2nd most successful scalp.

    Had he fought Pulev before Klitschko, I think some would be saying Pulev is a big step up from his usual opponents & potentially very dangerous. However, we've seen what level AJ is capable of now and it's very impressive.