AJ vs top heavyweights post-2015

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NEETzschean, Nov 5, 2021.


Who does AJ beat?

Poll closed Nov 12, 2021.
  1. Briedis

    50.0%
  2. Wlad

    21.4%
  3. Ortiz

    57.1%
  4. Povetkin

    42.9%
  5. Wilder

    35.7%
  6. Fury

    7.1%
  7. Joyce

    50.0%
  8. He loses to all of them

    21.4%
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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    In light of AJ's second loss and the likelihood that Usyk has his number, it's interesting to theorise how AJ would have fared against the top men post-2015. How does AJ from the Usyk fight fare against:

    Briedis from the Charr fight
    Wlad from the Fury fight
    Ortiz from the Jennings fight
    Povetkin from the Duhaupas fight
    Wilder from Ortiz 1
    Fury from Wilder 2
    Joyce from the Dubois fight
     
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  2. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More often than not he beats them all except Fury, and those versions of Wlad and Wilder are 50/50 imo (not sure why Briedis is on this list?)
     
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  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once a fighter quits in the ring when they have more to give, or similarly fights to survive and not win when they know they're about to lose a decision, it's VERY hard to make them a favorite against fighters who have shown the better intangibles.

    Joshua has would be at least competitive in all of these matchups as described. Half of them are 50/50 fights, and the other half he'd be a clear underdog in.
     
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  4. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Briedis is on the list because he was 214 lbs fighting at HW in 2015 when he brutally KO'd Manuel Charr. He went on to become a 3x cruiserweight champion and gave future AJ-conqueror Usyk his closest and toughest fight by far.
     
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  5. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You'd have to say he'd probably lose to all of them.
     
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  6. Mighty

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    Briedis from the Charr fight
    Briedis murders him.

    Wlad from the Fury fight
    Wlad murders him.

    Ortiz from the Jennings fight
    Probably AJ.

    Povetkin from the Duhaupas fight
    Povetkin murders him.

    Wilder from Ortiz 1
    50/50

    Fury from Wilder 2
    Fury by first degree murder.

    Joyce from the Dubois fight
    Probably AJ.
     
  7. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd have Joshua a 65-35 favourite against Joyce, and 60-40 favourite against Ortiz

    Against the rest, Joshua is 50-50 at best or the underdog
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I dunno man.

    But I'm sure if 3 things.

    In 2015 AJ was still a prospect, if he isn't shot mentally he still has a lot to give.

    If Wald would have gone for the jugular he would have knocked AJ out.

    For a couple of years AJ was the best HW in the world (only because Fury was inactive though)

    That being said I'll play along: he beats them all apart from Fury, Wilder and maybe Joyce.

    Fury was likely the best HW during the entire of AJs prime.

    Wilder is gonna catch him at one point and AJ isn't going to be able to take the heat.

    Joyce is a bit of an unknown at the top level so it's too early to say.