AJ vs Wilder (If It Happens This Year)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Townsend, Mar 14, 2022.


  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Balsa wood?? The level of exaggeration about chins at times is just horrendous. If it was as bad, AJ woulda been KO'd several times already. And are you forgetting Wilder's own shaky whiskers??

    There's no "Fact" that AJ won't hunt Wilder...whatever that means. With Usyk out ATM, they've put feelers out for a few guys. Ortiz, Joyce, and yes, Wilder.
     
  2. Pompey Junglist

    Pompey Junglist Active Member Full Member

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    Seek and destroy AJ doesn't exist any more. He can't spend a few rounds tentatively setting traps for Wilder, we all know what would happen...Wilder will connect with Joshua's filo pastry mandible.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't need to exist. Why would he have to fight that way to be successful? Are you going to pretend DW's chin isn't shaky? Or that between the two, AJ's skillset doesn't dwarf DW's by a metric ton? Having a right like DW has is great. But if you have to rely on it to connect and win, especially down on cards, you are already as a slight disadvantage.

    "We all know..."
    "Will connect"

    Actually, it's YOU KNOW. And CAN connect.
     
  4. Pompey Junglist

    Pompey Junglist Active Member Full Member

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    AJ does have the greater skill set but he's far too cautious these days. They both have shaky chins to be fair, but Joshua in particular goes to pieces when his brandy snap cranium is connected with. His decision making becomes laughable, like an ant with its antennae on fire.

    AJ isn't going to put it on Wilder, he'll be even more cautious than he was against the slow and decrepit Pulev.

    Wilder has connected with far more elusive fighters than AJ and will surely do so again while the bodybuilder tries to summon the courage for an assault.

    The result will be Joshua reeling around like a whirligig beetle prior to losing consciousness.
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Being cautious is not a negative. That level of being more cautious was what allowed Wlad and Lennox Lewis to extend their respective careers.

    Can see this is a waste of time. DW has struggled with worse boxers, needing his KO to secure his win.

    All you are doing is a one-sided take on this, conveniently ignoring DW's shortcoming, his terrible resume (That would make many look like Ali) and trying to be cute w/ your digs on AJ.
     
  6. Pompey Junglist

    Pompey Junglist Active Member Full Member

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    I'm well aware of Wilder's shortcomings and have never been a fan.

    Fury showed how you beat him, it requires first and foremost great bravery.

    He tried the slick, box and move approach in the first fight and though he was robbed on the cards the inherent danger of such an approach was made abundantly clear to all.

    Pretty much any fighter can be ahead on the cards against Wilder but that doesn't really matter if you only get to hear about how well you were doing on those cards once your oxygen mask has been removed.

    Fury was the first to realise and demonstrate that the way to beat Wilder is actually counter intuitive. You have to walk into the fire to some extent, get him on the backfoot and constantly disrupt his ability to set himself.

    I can think of a few fighters who might be able to implement that road map to success against Wilder, but Joshua most certainly is not one of them. Maybe once, some years ago. Maybe. But certainly not now.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah i said exactly the same thing, so what you gonna do boy????
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury simply showed how HE beat him. Not the only to beat him.
     
  9. Pompey Junglist

    Pompey Junglist Active Member Full Member

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    No-one ELSE has demonstrated a different WAY to beat him.

    Perhaps AJ can be THAT man but given he's a gun-shy bodybuilder WITH a snail shell chin AND limited powers OF recovery, I'm struggling to SEE his 'path TO victory'.

    Mind you, it's heavyweight boxing so anything can happen.
     
  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you fight one top rated guy and lose to him. Andre Berto looked unbeatable against his weak level of comp too.

    I remember the 'Attitude Era' of pro wresting too :roto2palm:

    :lol:
     
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  11. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Well then your point Is Invalid as was your prediction for AJs last fight 'Boy'
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    forget something tiger?
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :(
     
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I still struggle to understand why people can't understand that all fights are different?
    Joshua was facing undefeated Breazeale

    Joshua beat Molina in 3 rounds, Wilder took 9 rounds

    Chisora beat Szpilka in 2 rounds, Wilder took 9 rounds, but I would guess Wilder is a harder puncher

    I think Joshua could be a bigger puncher than Wilder but of course I don't know and am only speculating
     
  15. Reg

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    Aj has more headmovement than just about everyone on Wilders resume. Especially Ortiz who has the the stiffest neck at heavyweight and it took Wilder 7 round to land.
     
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