AJ - Wilder was signed and was going to be announced

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course it's a simple as that. Ruiz made sure it wouldn't have happened anyway, but it was clear that Wilder wanted nothing of the confident, aggressive destroyer pre Ruiz. He had a hard time with the pressure and counter punching of Ortiz for chrissakes.

    Fury also wanted nothing to do with that Joshua, pricing himself out. To be fair to Fury, he was still getting back to full fitness around this time, but I still wonder how keen he was even in 2021. There was just so many threats of walking away coming from his side that I wonder if he didn't somewhere want to ruin it.

    As for Wilder, it wasn't until after the Franklin fight, where Joshua looked gunshy against someone who posed minimal threat, that he seemed to really want Joshua.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I agree completely. And i agree that Hearn going for Fury on his return was an easy picking as well. Same as what Wilder did. But while Fury was getting back, he still fight Wilder, and not AJ, and he had the opportunity, and he choose Wilder, which just tells you all you need to know, when Fury prize purse for Wilder 1 was a few million, and he would have earned dozens against AJ.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doesn't really make sense for Joshua now, I think. After Parker basically shut him out, anything other than a dominant KO would be seen as a failure from AJ, and Wilder still has that punch. A bit of impatience and loss of focus and that might be it. You don't want to go in against an opponent like that with the feeling that anything but a highlight reel KO is a let down.

    And even if he gets one it will be a "meh, so he did a bit better than Parker and about as well as Fury did against a younger and fresher version, so what?" So except for money there's no real upside here.

    Hrgovic is more risk, but a win over him and Joshua is the uncontested front runner for facing the winner of Usyk-Fury.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh yes. Wilder was seen as the much easier option. Memory is short, but those were the optics pre Ruiz. Joshua was alone at the top and Fury was very much a question mark concerning what he had left. The first Wilder fight was a step forward for Fury, but it wasn't until the second that he was truly back.
     
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  5. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Well its to late now. No one wants to see Wilder fightinh ever again in a real boxing match after yesterday.

    He was almost more boring than Okoile and did absolutely nothing on purpose
     
  6. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    80 20 joshua
    It as to be
    Wilder brings
    No viewing
    No belts
    No depth of cv
    No new improved version
    Nothing
    So it comes back to the original offer offered
    Lol
    Wilder as been exposed for what we all knew

    Anyone think it's a shut out if it was in america
    Lol
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Now more info comes from Dan Rafael, the fight was literally signed, and it was 2 fight deal, aka there was a rematch clause include. The only stipulation was the both fighters win their respective fights, which Wilder failed to do so.
    It must hurt badly, as this would have been Wilder 2 biggest day by far. Hell he would have make more money in this 2 fights than he has ever made in his entire career so far.
    Really sad ending for the Bum Dosser.
     
  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Can someone explain to the saudies that we still wanna see Joshua-Wilder!

    Who gives a F that Wilder lost to Parker really? This is not a real sport after all, boxing is show business.

    And Joshua vs Wilder is still a great show we wanna see!
     
  9. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Yes that's my feeling exactly. It may not be as lucrative, but it would still generate enough of a payday - and fan interest - to justify it. Make the fight!!
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It will generate, but Saudi is not about that. The fight was planned for March, and most people won't be happy, and AJ gains literally nothing from fighting Wilder, except for the cash, and he is already mad rich.
    Fight is dead in the water, and will most probably never ever happen.

    The thing is Saudi may not even call Wilder ever again. The guy barely throw any punches for the whole 12 round, and lose every single one of them.
    He was the worst fight on the night as well, and the only HW fight that didn't end with a stoppage. And he was supposedly the heaviest hitter ever. :D
    Wilder is done, and people need to accept it.
     
  11. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    Absolutely, the interest may not be as strong but it's still there, and there is still probably a good bit of money to be had. Maybe not as much, but I'd be willing to bet it'd still generate a good bit for both men. There is a chance that it ends up being disappointing since the fight does seem to be a bit past its best point to happen of course. But I'd much rather we get a Mayweather-Pacquiao scenario than another Bowe-Lewis one.
     
  12. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wilder is an empty gown. He did well to survive 12 rounds against a guy who couldn't put a dent in fringe cruiser Jack Massey 11 months ago.
     
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