AJ with 10,000 years of boxing training vs Oleksandr Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Jul 17, 2022.



Who wins ?

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  1. Usyk

    53.1%
  2. Possibly AJ

    46.9%
  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And it is not that what you are saying is completely wrong, but Joshua has has had 40ish amateur fights ending in an Olympic gold medal, and 26 professional fights, 12 of them at the championship level.

    How much time does he need before there is some sort of leveling effect, there?

    All right. So Joshua has had his learning curve, chose the wrong strategy the first time, and now he is going to walk in there ready to go and "more aggressive." If he loses this time, no excuses.
     
  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Yeah, but what if AJ consumed England's finest boar meat? He would be the greatest.
     
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  3. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Why possibly, if Joshua fights like he did pre-Ruiz he could win easily.
    Usyk is an awkward lefty but not unbeatable at HW. There are several
    guys who could beat him. However if Joshua comes to spar again.......
     
  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    All he needs is 2 months:deal:
     
  5. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Tell Fury to fight Usyk and AJ. That's the two best fights left to make at heavyweight. IDC who wins or loses I think they'd be great. Fury has become lazy with success and he doesn't feel arsed to work his nuts off in the gym vs these two legit threats. I'm an Usyk guy but I still feel it is sad that a guy with natural talent like Fury is pissing it down the drain.
     
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua is tentative and 50k years won't make up for that

    He lacks bottle since the Wlad fight. To his credit that was his big night. Wlad let him off the hook, but he came back in devastating fashion

    He folded like a cheap chair vs a fat man on short notice. He didn't want to be in there and looked for a way out

    Aj has not been the same since and he will not be beating guys the calibre of Usyk or Fury no matter how much work he pits in, or who trains him

    Usyk will beat him again soundly
     
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Seriously, how can a Wizard end up homeless?
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    or maybe he be washed shot brain damaged before even turning to pro!
     
  10. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Practice makes it perfect, but how about physical attributes?

    AJ has a large frame like an oak chunk. He isn't flexible and fast as Usyk. He has no foot work. So far, he has wasted old and shot ex-champions and got away with it.

    AJ loses to the likes of Frank Sanchez, Adam Kownacki, Michael Hunter etc as well.
     
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  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    LOL Hyperbolic time chamber ftw.
     
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  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    That happens a lot with guys that have natural talent. It come too easy for them. Fury got it in his head he wanted to be world champ and he did that. He met his goal. Perhaps ruling the division for 10 years isn't his thing.
     
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  13. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know this is tongue in cheek, but a FW with 10,000 years of boxing training would beat Usyk, They'd be the closest thing to God walking the Earth..................
     
  14. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I think Joshua being gifted that gold medal that he didn't actually earn was the one of the worst things that could have happen to him. Had he lost, he may very well have brought in new trainers or added some much needed mental growth earlier on.

    He may have decided not to trade punches on the inside against the guy with T-rex arms by comparison in Ruiz jr. or try to outbox the master boxer in Usyk if he had forced to face reality a little earlier.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk might have had a lot more amateur fights but he didn't take up the sport until he was 15 and is a superb natural talent and he's not a 6'6'' 240-250lb power punching Adonis who has the entire might of the Rematchroom machine behind him, one of the most stacked decks in the sport, and he doesn't get gifted gold medals in tournaments he lost half of his fights in. If Usyk and AJ were remotely the same size Usyk would KO him 100 times out of 100.