AJs PED use?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by baconmaker, Jul 5, 2017.


  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he did fail a test in the future I wouldn't be surprised but until he does fail a test we can never know for sure, it's just speculation at the moment.

    I find the rationale for him being a PED abuser idiotic thought. So he gained 20lbs since he turned pro. Wilder is 20lbs heavier too since he turned pro but nobody is accusing him of doping. Any top athlete right now should be suspected, too many doping scandals recently to think everyone at the top is clean, I suspect most top athletes cheat, especially in sports like boxing where the testing is less than adequate and the penalties for doping inconsistent.
     
  2. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    No other heavyweights want Wilder's belt. Comes with WBC's drug testing. Also, LOL at people trying to make the case that Joshua is clean.
     
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  3. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    these athletes dont even need the more sophisticated stuff, hgh alone has such a short half life that anybody can get away with using it care free unless they are in a random testing program.
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Once again, no proof! I see a trend here Seph! I know, I know, I'm ignorant to all the evidence in my face and my biased mentallity will not allow me to see the truth. I heard it all before, because you use the same MO everytime. How many times is this going to happen? Someone calls a fighter a drug cheat and can't back it up with any proof whatso ever. The best you can do is say some nonsense like, my friends cousins, brothers, nephews half brothers moms, uncle said fighter X is on the juice and he chews gum! Lol
     
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  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It wouldn't be an accusation with proof.
     
  6. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah same goes with TEST suspension. Other stuff like insulin is not even tested for. For those who do not know; Insulin is the most anabolic hormone and is used to more efficiently shuttle nutrients into muscle cells.

    For those claiming Joshua has to fail a test first, well that could prove difficult because UKAD does not test him. Part of the reason he always fights at home.
     
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  7. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    You would have to be completely ******ed to think he's never been on PEDs.
     
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  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    The proof is in the pudding, you are free to believe in whatever fairy tales to your heart's desire.

    When a fighter is sporting a pregnant hgh gut, acne all over their face, unnatural rapid muscle growth and then you have his former coaches who have actually worked with him tell you that he is on the gear, then it stands to reason that the boy is on the gear. You are basically suggesting I should take the word of blind devoted fanboys who tell me that a former crack dealer wouldn't touch roids, over professionals who are actually on the inside of the sport!

    If Joshua is clean then we can discard reason and believe that every single bodybuilder, including Ronnie Coleman and WWE athlete are clean because we haven't seem them fail bypassable tests or seen video evidence of them injecting the needle.
     
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  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Body builder has to take steroids to compete, it's that simple. There are plenty of ways to cheat, but if you are someone like Void, or SOB you are allowed to take steroids as will. SOB refused to take a drug test for a reason, but he knew that if he was asked he could easily cheat................
     
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  10. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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  11. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Oh! Well that settles it then! There is absolutely NO WAY Joshua gets around that!


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  12. RG1885

    RG1885 Member Full Member

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    We had this discussion before and it ended with you saying something along the lines of

    "I dont have any proof so i cant guarantee he is, but i think he is"

    As per that previous discussion, when you have seen a failed drugs test from Joshua your purely assuming.
    Im not even saying its a ridiculous assumption, but assumption is all it is.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He gets tested like any other fighter in the UK. Was tested by VADA for the Wlad fight as well. People will try and discredit UKAD but even though it isn't the best testing body it's still better than what most US fighters and fighters from other countries have to go through. Which is why guys like Whyte, Fury etc have gotten caught. Doesn't mean he's clean though but as I said before it's just speculation until he does fail a test.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...shua-drug-tested-Wladimir-Klitschko-bout.html
     
  14. Boxingjnr

    Boxingjnr relentlessjnr Full Member

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    It's embarrassing reading some of these posts and just how little you know about PED's. @Sephiroth Rising 7, I'm happy to give you a lesson, just drop me a message.
     
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  15. dirty boy

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    "Never assume". It's on the wall in this office and one of the most important aspects of not only what we do, but should be applied to everything. A few people would do well to remember that.

    Would like to add that i'm in my late thirties and managed to put on 6lbs of muscle on in the last year, if a 5'9" old man like me can do it clean, I'm sure a young man like AJ can do it far more easily.

    Innocent until proven guilty, don't tarnish the sport with with unfounded accusations, or indeed, be brave enough to stick your neck above the parapet and call it out with proof, otherwise, go away. Jealously is a horrible trait.
     
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