AJs PED use?

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Liar. Do not misquote me.

    The drug testing in boxing is a farce. You boys do not have any idea how easy it is to pass a drugs test while cycling. You just wish to believe what you wish to believe in spite of the obvious staring right in your faces.

    And boxingAJpr, try and give me this lesson on steroids. Make a fool of yourself and amuse me.
     
  2. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    6'6"
    ~250 lb
    <10% bodyfat

    You don't need to see any test results to evaluate that.

    That physique at 6'6" is different from 5'10" or whatever the **** you are. Putting on a pound of muscle at 5'10" isn't incredibly easier/harder than putting on a pound of muscle at 6'6", the real difference is that a pound of muscle looks like nothing at 6'6".

    Looking like AJ when you're 5'10" isn't a big deal. It can be done naturally. At 6'6", it requires simply too much muscle mass.
     
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  3. Price is back

    Price is back E16 Canning Town banned Full Member

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    I bet that man has tiny balls.
     
  4. Price is back

    Price is back E16 Canning Town banned Full Member

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    Because he is the new world orders new boxing poster boy.
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    So I assume you were also doing high intensity cardio, sparring, plyometrics training, bag work and endurance conditioning along with the weights 5 times a week, when you gained those 6lbs of muscle right?
     
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  6. RG1885

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    I didnt quote you, i said it was something along the lines of that. And as far as i remember it was, you admitted you can neither prove nor gurantee that AJ is on roids. Im not saying he is or he isn't. Im saying your argument is based on assumption, you have no proof whatsoever.
     
  7. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I have no proof the earth isn't going to explode tomorrow, but it's still a reasonable assumption to make.
     
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  8. RG1885

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    Thats reaching. Unless Joshua fails a drug test its purely assumption based on nothing real.
    Essentially, all we know is he has passed his tests so far, and if that isnt enough then feel free to assume.
    He cannot be labelled a PED user unless its confirmed he is, my point is that Seph cannot prove he is, no matter how hard he tries to, because he doesnt have any proof.
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    What do you want pictures of him taking steroids? Are you waiting for Sky sports to tell you he is on roids? Or are you waiting for Eddie Hearn to expose his golden goose?

    I've been told first hand by professionals he's worked with that he is on it. Those that actually know about roids have seen all of the hallmarks of testosterone side effects on his body to reach the conclusion that he is in fact on it.

    That is your guarantee right there.
     
  10. lucky luke

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    No, i was relaying what people have posted over the years.
     
  11. ertwin

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    At least a few people on here get it!
     
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  12. RG1885

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    So this guarantee is the word of some bloke over the internet telling me he knows a guy?
    Thats not proof nor a guarantee, you dont have proof.
    I could just as easily sit here and say i know a guy that knows AJ and he definitely doesnt take roids. It doesnt mean i have proof.
    Unless you can provide proof you have an assumptiom - an assumption that isnt ridiculous, an understandable assumption, but that doesnt equate to proof.
     
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  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    You have so much faith in drug tests. Since you won't take my word for how weak drug tests are, then maybe you will take the word from one of the most renowned steroid peddlers in the sport of boxing, Victor Conte who has worked with the elite boxers and olympic gold medallists from all around the world to help them circumvent these tests

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    In another article he states

    “Doping is still rife in athletics, for the sole reason that it is still too easy to beat the testers,''

    ''The testing that is being utilised in boxing is virtually worthless," Conte told BBC Radio 5 live

    ''They give the boxer every opportunity to hide what they may have taken previously and that is not the way the world operates these days."

    "I don't believe they want to know how rampant the use of drugs really is.," said Conte. "Testing in boxing is completely and totally inept."

    A man who has worked with the likes of Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao seems to think these tests are effectively worthless, yet fanboys living in their bedrooms seem to know better.
     
  14. RG1885

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    I havent said he isnt on PEDS.
    I have also said i can understand why people could assume he is on PEDS.
    Im not convinced either way, we haqve tests saying he is clean, but im not an idiot, that means he was clean when the test took place and nothing more.
    It doesnt mean he isnt clean though, and you have no proof to say otherwise.
    Thats the point im making, im not defending Joshua telling you he is clean, im telling you that you dont have anything legit to back up your claims that he is definitely doing roids.
    Proof is a failed test, we dont have one.
     
  15. JackSilver

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    Jousha been caught using would be the biggest individual drug scandal to hit sports since Ben Johnson in the Olympics. The only person in the entire world that would have a bigger impact if caught would be Usain Bolt and that will never happen.

    Like Bolt, the hate and public backlash would be too damaging to their sport for those running it to risk exposing them as possible cheats.