AJs PED use?

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  1. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    It's based on the facts that he's 6'6", <10% bodyfat, ~250 lb, and isn't even a professional bodybuilder. That's plenty of evidence.

    If you're not completely ****ing ******ed.
     
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  2. RG1885

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    Ah i see, i havent seen it in the news that he has been stripped and had his license revoked.
    Do the governing bodies etc know he is 6'6 with low bodyfat and 250lbs?

    Not proof.
     
  3. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    It's really funny because they absolutely should if they were serious about it.

    It makes it obvious what a farce these tests are.
     
  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Above you were saying ''unless Joshua fails a drug test then it's purely assumption based on nothing'' As if drug testing is the highest standard to know whether a fighter is truly clean.

    You are being wilfully ignorant. The assumptions are not based on nothing, they are based on Joshua displaying ALL of the telltale signs of roid use.

    Explain to me what condition causes a bloated stomach in a healthy athlete? Or why do you not try experimenting yourself. Go on a 4-5k calorie diet, train 5 days a week, doing bag work, endurance training, plyometrics, weight lifting, sparring, high intensity cardio and see if you will gain over 20lbs of muscle within a year without gear.

    Let's see if you will be able to even drag yourself out of bed after the first week doing of that training without crashing.
     
  5. RG1885

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    I agree with the facts the current testing is poor, have never disputed it.
    But on the subject of AJ, unless a test can 100% prove he has taken an illegal substance, we can only assume.
    There is no definitive proof.
    If the testing imrpoves and AJ is found to be using PEDS or if he gets caught using PEDS this afternoon then believe me, i will be more than happy to see him stripped and banned. I still stand by the argument here that currently there is no proof he isnt. We only have proof that when he has been tested he has been clean.
     
  6. madballster

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    AJ is skinny and not huge in bodybuilding terms. His development is quite typical for someone working out 10-15 years with a high degree of dedication, high quality diet and no pigging out on junk food.
     
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  7. RG1885

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    Again, i havent said the current method of testing is adequate, i havent said your rationale for believing AJ is using PEDS is poor, i havent even said that he isnt using PEDS.
    I have said that he has never been found guilty and you dont have anything to prove otherwise.
    What you have provided as "proof" is the
    "I know someone who says AJ uses PEDS" - Nope, not proof.
    Thats my argument, he may very well be on PEDS, we do not know 100% he is unless he gets caught. Whether the current tests are up to a good standard or not, if he gets caught then that is proof.
     
  8. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    There's no definitive proof of anything. He fails a test, and it's "tainted, Russian meat from Wlad!!" or something.

    No matter what, all we can say is, "The facts suggest he's dirty/clean." And the facts do suggest he has used PEDs based on his impossible dimensions.

    I don't want him stripped honestly, and I hate AJ.

    All professional athletes use PEDs. I don't think it's a big deal.
     
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  9. RG1885

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    See this is a post i can understand. Im sceptical myself and im an AJ fan.
    But as you said there is no definitive proof. There is a chance he is, just as there is a chance he isnt.
     
  10. houmzz

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    Why do you think he doesn't travel to the US?He doesn't want to be tested by VADA. And if he will travel to the US he will want only UKAD testing. Hearn is shaking every time IFL TV is asking him about UKAD testing.
     
  11. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I mean, sure, in the same way there's a chance that ad about "sexy, local singles looking for you" is real. I mean, we have no definitive proof it isn't.

    That chance isn't so good though.
     
  12. RG1885

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    I know a guy who knows they're real
     
  13. pow

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    You obviously have massive insecurities and trust issues.

    They are not facts then :BangHead:
     
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