AJ's real standing and legacy

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  1. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    He's lost two fights that he was really expected to win. That rematch against Ruiz shouldn't really count much given the shape Ruiz came in. Imo, the guy is extremely over paid in comparison to his true boxing ability and fighting heart, he goes completely gun shy when in there with a real live dog who will give back as good as he gets if not better
     
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  2. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'll never be remembered as an all time great, but he'll be considered a decent if limited champion who unified most of the big belts and tried to deliver fights with the big names of his era - only really Wilder and Fury escaped him, and they were more concerned with each other than fighting him.
     
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  3. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This one hurts Joshua’s legacy more than the Ruiz loss. He can say he was concussed vs Ruiz but he got dominated here one sided and had no clue how to adjust.
     
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  4. Боксёр

    Боксёр Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mediocre boxing skills he makes up with size and power but he's also weak mentally and freezes up.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Knocking over old men who stand in front of you is not what champions are made of.

    Wilder ruined a $200m fight. bhahaha.

    Fury is going to murder him for this.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    You lose credibility when you discount his victory over Ruiz.You come off as a hater right away.
     
  8. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Completely overrated.

    "Best record in HW boxing" crew will be crying their eyes out tonight.
     
  9. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    If he retired right now I would rank him similarly to Floyd Patterson. Not quite an ATG but a hall of famer
     
  10. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is a great fighter that’s the problem
     
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  11. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua is a great fighter, but he is not an elite fighter. And never will be...
     
  12. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    Always maintained that AJ cannot adapt fast enough on the fly in the ring against a good opponent
     
  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see the loss as such a big deal considering Joshua has a rematch clause. Joshua just like with Ruiz could comeback and beat Usyk if he employs the right strategy. Joshua didn't pace himself properly and as I expected Usyk being as experienced as he is made him pay every time he left an opening. But, as I've been saying for years Joshua really needs to work on moving his head. He also let Usyk land to the body whenever he wanted, which is just giving away points and emptying your own gas tank.
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    At least give him credit for accepting the fight. He took a risk and it went bad but he deserves respect for talking the challenge. He could have easily gave up his belt and fought somebody else to keep his other titles titles.
     
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  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The rematch does count against Ruiz no excuses. AJ is a solid champ but nothing special, I wouldn't rematch Usyk right away if I was him. He needs to learn how to use his size and go to the body on Usyk if he's going to stand a chance.