Al Bernstein: PBF is good but PAC beats him!

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  1. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Read my post before that also. I was comparing Pacquiao throwing 800+ punches in most fights compared to his Marquez fight where he fought a skilled technician and his punch output decreased dramatically.

    Then I compared a fighter who has a high volume output (Hatton) and his previous then what Mayweather madeh him do because he's a skilled technician and a defensive genius.

    At no point did I compare Hatton to Pacquiao.
     
  2. dilayro

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    Floyd 's leaping left hook will be his undoing. he throws it a lot and will be timed by a counter right hook. if he throws careless pitty pat jab to the body, he'll taste the first KD in his career. I think Manny's right counter is very underrated and consider it the best in the business.
     
  3. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Pac throws 100 punches a round for 12 rounds I guarantee you he wont see 12 rounds. No way in hell he is gonna keep throwing. Way to many openings. Pac ia likely to stop throwing than walk through mayweather punches. I don't understand how people can't see that Pac leaves himself open way to much to beat mayweather. He also leaves his hands down to long. Watch when he throws combos. When Pac jumps in on mayweather he is going to get caught. Even if Pac doesn't get caught coming in mayweather will slip and counter. This isn't no miguel cotto or Marg. This is jjm times 2. Don't be surprised when the fight is nothing like you thought it would be.
     
  4. blur

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    :good
    :hi: even margo almost got knocked out by that right hook.
     
  5. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Some of you grossly underestimate Floyd for whatever reason. If you think Pac will have his way in this fight your sadly mistaken.

    There are so many little things that Floyd does to negate offense....Pac will find this out and become frustrated when he isn't able to just let his hands go.

    Mark my words...you will be hollering it didnt live up to the bill because Floyd will not allow an action packed fight it will be methodical and could easily turn into a onesided thourough boxing lesson.

    UD Floyd.
     
  6. dilayro

    dilayro Active Member Full Member

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    So you're saying old Oscar would be more competitive than Pac? :rofl

    Floyd, for all the godly skills he's got, is still untested up to this time. His best win are against has beens or overmatched.

    I'll wait.
     
  7. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    huh?

    Oscar? How the hell you get that?

    Floyd has been tested and won many times and so has Pac.

    If you feel that he isnt as good as Pac so be it your opinion.

    Fact is you call his competition has beens and overmatched but before EVERYONE of his fights (besides JMM) the opponets was supposed to be the one and when they are thouroughly outboxed the shyt changes to overmatched and has been. You should be familiar with this because the same thing gets done to Pac. Be a fan of the sport and not just one fighter call the shyt both ways.

    Floyd is so much more cerebral in that ring i dont feel Pac can keep up. Floyd can adjust and switch up in mid fight. He doesnt lose composure, extremly smart, and doesnt lose focus. Ontop of that he has and uses every tool in boxing, the most complete fighter today.
     
  8. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its possible that Oscar could end up being more competitive. Nothing against Pac's level of skill or anything but Oscar had size and a mean jab which gives speedy pure boxers with average power like Mayweather trouble. Oscar had a good game plan of a strong defense(he was taught by SR) first and a jab. Plus the fight was at 154.

    You saying Mayweather is untested up to this time is because you only go by name the name of fighters. Him fighting Cotto or Margo does not do anything for Mayweather in preparing him for Pac. They all fight completely different. Mayweather has fought more styles and has fought someone who was more athletically gifted with more hand speed and power then him. Pac has never fought someone who could match him athletically or in hand speed. Not saying that he did that purposely or ducked them, but I am saying that there is going to be a point when Pac realizes that Mayweather isn't DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margo and the punches coming back at him are coming WAAAAAY faster then those guys could ever dream about. And that beating those guys did not prepare him for Mayweather.
     
  9. artofwar

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    we will see. i dont think its as plain sailing as you describe it. i think floyd would have taken this fight straight away if he thought it was easy. pac has all the tools to beat floyd, floyd like to control the pace of the fight and uses his ring smarts to win but he doesnt have that luxury against pac. i think pacs speed angles and the pace he sets will defeat floyd.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

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    he does have that luxury of controling the space with his own speed and reach.

    and of course its not plain sailing thats all i was telling guys on here about Pac just steam rolling Floyd.

    Pac will need to do alot more than just those speed and agles because like i said Floyd will control spacing and pace.
     
  11. dilayro

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    Didn't you say it's going to be a thorough one-sided boxing lesson. If you can't beat decisively an old and part time boxer in Oscar then you're not giving Pac a boxing lesson.

    If there's somebody who's good good at giving boxing lesson, it's Pac.

    I said Floyd has godly skills, i didn't say Pac will dominate like him a nobody the way you did.

    Pac will win in the manner Floyd fights his game. see my earlier post.
     
  12. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i have already seen the fights where floyd looks vulnerable. castillo fight, the first 6 rounds of hatton, parts of oscar and corley. the reason why he found difficulties was because he was forced into a fight with a fast pace where he is uncomfortable. but those fighters do not have the stamina or ability that pac has who can maintain it for the 12 rounds.
     
  13. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you know Asians are good at playing chess?:deal
     
  14. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As usual the African American Fighter gets over hyped and even though Floyd has shown little power at WW and not fought the likes of Cotto, Margarito, Clottey and Pac or not even any of them, yet people assume Floyd will simply win.

    Cotto, Clottey and Margarito are a great trio all with completely different styles. One could lose their mind trying to comprehend how any WW could get so much repsect without facing at least 2 of those guys.

    Manny took them all out, took their best punches and even managed to knockdown and wobble Cotto and Margartio with a right hook neither came close to defending.

    Judah made Floyd touch the canvas with a much more telegraphed right hook how will Floyd defend Manny's right hook which can come at any point in one of his unique combinations ?

    At 34 he is gigantically overmatched will get hit and will not be able to hurt Manny as much younger and stronger WW's have tried and ALL got hit with punches they could not see.

    We need to wake up and come to terms with the fact that Floyd at 34 has no shot against Pac. floyd in his prime would beat Manny everyday of the week. floyd at 34 -36 will get knockedout and now I hope it does not happen.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Wow...so someone thinks Pac wins. Wow!!! Weird too!