Al Bernstein's scorecard for Whitaker-Chavez: 118-110 Whitaker

Please tell me you are joking, because if you are not...wow, get out:hi:

 

Hey Sweet Scientist when are you going to upload that Camacho fight? :yep:bbb

 

All right folks, here is once and for all my view on that fight night in San Antonio, TX between the two 5 time World Champions, 31 year old Julio Cesar Chavez with the blue and white trunks from the blue corner ( 87-0,75 KOs) and Pernell Whitaker with the blue trunks with the red trim from the red corner (32-1,15 KOs) for Whitaker's WBC Welterweight Championship, with 60 thousand attending the Big Fight.

Round 1 - Whitaker 10-9: Pernell takes big right hand but lands enough soft jabs and lefts to the body, it's a feeling out round with a lot of clinching, holding and hitting...

Round 2 - Chavez 19-19: Chavez closes the distance and gets too many body shots in, some rights and despite Whitaker landing an unusual big overhand left and some jabs, it's not enough to steal the round for Sweet Pea.

Round 3 - Whitaker 29-28: All Whitaker, blocking Chavez rights, timing him with the double jab, countering with the left and turning him, seems that he'd have to move backwards all night long at this point and still be effective. Beautiful right hook to finish the stanza.

Round 4 - Whitaker 39-37: A lot of clinching and Chavez hitting downstairs, but at a certain point, Sweet Pea unloads on Chavez against the ropes and the mexican, the Lion from Culiacan has to show some boxing for the first time.

Round 5 - Chavez 47-48: Chavez starts out with 5 body shots, 2 right hands and connects always to the body or to the head when Pernell takes steps backwards. There are exchange of jabs, a double jab from Whitaker and a flush left couter from Pernell but not enough compared with that start from Chavez.

Round 6 - Chavez 57-57: Big rights down the middle from Chavez, two left counters from Whitaker but Sweet Pea really buys time hitting JCC with two flagrant low blows and points are not taken away. Chavez finishes with big rights and glancing shots after the time out for the low blows.

Round 7 - Whitaker 67-66: Pernell in control as Dr. Ferdie Pacheco commenting for Showtime points out his Ring Generalship, making Chavez fight his fight despite being the stalker, but above all, morphying the rhythm, altering the tempo with faster hands and feet. Whitaker continues taking shots as he gets off but lands big left counters too often.

Round 8 - Whitaker 77-75: The Central point in this fight in my view as Sweet Pea flurries with head shots, uppercuts, body shots, hooks flush on Chavez face, pummeling on him with handspeed and accuracy. Before round 6 with was back and forth, but these rounds 6 and 7 made it for Whitaker more than anything else...

Round 9 - Chavez 86-86: Chavez comes out bombing with right hands and Sweet Pea tires, his jab is not as effective and he just puts a combination here and there, a fast left hook and a counter...

Round 10 - Whitaker 97-95: Chavez corner make him aware of the sense of urgency to come forward and he comes out strong exchanging rights with Whitaker's left counters but Whitaker controls with the jab against the desperate Lion of Culiacan, Sinaloa.

Round 11 - Whitaker 107-104: Whitaker pressing Chavez against the ropes and out-punching him with right hands.

Round 12 - Chavez 116-114: Chavez pressing Chavez smartly and once again against the ropes but misses with a lot of jabs and conters as Chavez finally moves his head correctly and gets his share of connects, attacking the body and making Whitaker pay for missing as he is too tired to keep his man off for 12-3 minutes rounds.

Frank Marti, Aarau Switzerland, and Mickey Vann, Ukited Kingdom, saw it even 115-115 ( and that's understandable cause rounds 1, rounds 10 or 11 could have gone to JCC from different perspectives), Jack Woodruff saw it as I did, 7 rounds to 5 to Whitaker or 115-113 ( I had 116-114)... Al Bernestein's score is a tranvestite of course and we all know Sweet Pea didn't lose his title ( he would against Hoya but that's another matter) and Chavez didn't lose his undefeated record ( would lose first bout to Frankie Randall in another controversy with R. Steele taking 2 points away for low blows that costed Chavez the fight whereas J. Cortez didn't take from Whitaker that night). End of Discussion for me.

 

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You can't blame him for being a "True Mexican" and thinking he win's when he hasn't.

 

Whitake clearly won 117-111.

 

If you upload the fight Scientist, I'd love to see and hear Bernstein rationalize how in the heck he gives 10 of 12 rounds to Pernell Whitaker.
I doubt Whitaker thought he won that many! :nut

 

What do you mean Chavez didn't lose his undefeated record ? If you think he lost the Whitaker fight, like many here, then he lost the Whitaker fight and his undefeated status as well... don't understand that.

 

He means its an official draw, and nothing will ever change it. Which means that JCC stayed undefeated. He didn't really lose the fight officially.

 

My bad, I thought he referred to his scoring and not the official decision...

 

no prob.

 

It's not that outrageous a scorecard. I scored it a bit closer than Bernstein, 117-111 in favour of Whitaker.

 

The guy in this thread who had it 7-5 is even more baffling. Just out of interest, was there any newspaper/mag (non-Mexican) that had Chavez winning or a draw? The draw was obviously 'fixed' regardless because Vann deducted a point when it was against the rules. A case of a 'doctored' scorecard perhaps?


ps. Anyone see the Johnasson-Gomez fight last week, when Vann stopped it? Although it was a decent stoppage I thought, when one of Gomez's corner went to him you overheard him say "Don't worry Mike, Vann's a crook, everybody knows that".