Al Bernstein's scorecard for Whitaker-Chavez: 118-110 Whitaker

Whitaker didn't do much either in those particular rounds so I always give those kind of rounds to the guy who's taking the fight to his opponent. What people don't see is that every time Pernell jabs and takes some steps back, he eats a right hand down the middle or to the body and those are clean, effective shots. Pernell didn't win in what could be mentioned as Ring Generalship ( as Ferdie Pacheco wrongly called it) cause he didn't manoeuvre the Mexican where he wanted to, he just hit him first and moved backwards almost all night long. Then you cannot speak about Defense either cause he didn't block shots and made Chavez miss... Finally, in what concerns to Clean Punching and Effective Aggressiveness, both men had their cases as Pernell dominated with the jab and the fast hybrid left uppercut/hook inside and Chavez always came forward and threw series of 3,4 body shots at a time, Pernell hit Chavez flush with lefts but JCC hit a lot with straight, heavier rights and his own left jabs. People don't want to acknowledge that it was a close fight cause they wanted to assume it would have been a robbery anyway... But how come it was? Pernell didn't lose his 147 pound title and his P4P status as Jimmy Lennon Jr announced it to be, a fight for P4P stature... Therefore, I conclude people wanted badly to see JCC lose and balanced their opinions and scorings to make it wide for Sweet Pea and then alledged it was a robbery. Merdrick Taylor won almost every round against JCC, Steele stopped that one when he didn't necessarily need to, Pernell had the same team with Georgie Benton and Lou Duva so it's logical this was to be some sort of venganza, vendetta or vengeance and Al Bernstein joined the stars and stripes spirit and balanced his rounds scoring to the american from the beginning. Pernell won close ( in my view) but the decision was technically a majority draw - Sweet Pea is a HOFer and the Lion of Culiacan was the best fighter of his generation.

 

I went off Chavez towards the end of his career. What an awful bad loser/quitter he became. Sad really. :-(

 

Yes, and anyone who knows my posts will be well aware that I'd be the first to jump on it if it were 'Yank Bias'. :good

 

I don't know if the American Press was afraid of being descredited but the fact is that it was the American Press which complained about the decision and it happened in front of 60 thousand in San Antonio, Texas, USA, not in front of 130 thousand in Ciudad del Mexico, Distrito Federal, Mexico ( vs Greg Haugen). In what concerns to professional opinions, then we cannot forget that the judges were also professionals, Fran Marti, Mickey Vann and american judge Jack Woodruff ( scored it 115-113), so we are not questioning anybody's professionalism, just their opinions as boxing experts and according to their nationalities and the nationality of the public they are broadcasting for.

You cannot speak for the whole world, maybe just for yourself and the impression you have about what american citizens and british citizens felt, well, maybe not even that. Nobody said anything about the judges and press being biased but I feel that reporters such as Al Bernstein have bosses and their companies are based in a specific country, and the goal of that company is to make profit in that specific country. Has Don King said in name of his company that Chavez deserved to lose?...

You don't remember anyone not claiming this was a robbery? I just remember people saying it was close and controversial and that is how far our memories go, sweet_scientist's and Dorfmeister's.

Ending with the beginning, I have to ask your source for the aforementioned punch stats or else you gonna make me see those rounds again and possibly make my own jab/power punch stats and I don't feel like it... It was a very uninteresting fight, much in contrast to JCC's other fights, and I personally don't like to see Pernell's negative fighting quite frankly.

 

Chavez does love alcohol remember.

 

I've seen the fight many times and always have the same two scores either 9-3 or 8-4 Pea

 

you gave 11 points to chavez in round 9, and 11 points to sweet pea in round 10

 

I didn't think it was a close fight. Pea took it easily. He made Chavez look extremely ponderous and, quite frankly, above his head.

 

Thnx bro, I was halfway into sleep but now you have given me the right correction, so it's exactly 115-113 to Sweet Pea a la Jack Woodruff. Many apologies to sweet_scientist 2 but nothing affects what was already stated...

 

Another one from World Boxing: "Was the fix in?"

 

Too be honest I didn't see the whole fight, but I thought that it was very close. I did like Al's scorecard on the Moorer-Holyfield I better than HBO's though.

 

Sorry mate. I do have the issue in case you thought I was just trying to be a 'know all-**** all'. I think it's the one with the Ali: overrated inside. :good