Al Bernstein's WHAT IF show's First Edition: Frazier vs Holyfield!!!

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Al Bernstein just recently inagurated a internet show that highlights fantasy match-up game. He askes boxing experts who they think would win just in case they fight and at the end of the show, he gives his analysis of what could transpire in the fight and eventually who would win

    he picked frazier to beat holyfield by decision in an exciting and competitive fight

    http://www.ibnsports.com/bernstein.aspx
    click classic section
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  2. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    What a fight this would be. I agree with Bernstein. Frazier by decision but like Al said Holy's uppercut could play a role. I thik Evander would land it often and it was a helluva punch but Joe could make him pay with his left hook. I still lean toward Frazier but this could go either way.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Frazier's bodywork would be the main difference in a war.
     
  4. kmcc505

    kmcc505 Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Great, great fight. I'd take Holy in a close decision and all out war, but it could go either way. You know who'd really win? The fans.
     
  5. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier UD. It's not an issue with punch resistance or even power. It comes down to workrate and Frazier would outwork Holyfield. Frazier was also much better on the inside than Evander which would be the difference.
     
  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree with bernstein
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd give Holyfield a chance over 12 (though Frazier is the favourite), but over 15 it's another story. He certainly can't either outbox or outbrawl him for 15 rounds, and I don't see him getting the KO (but possibly a KD in the early rounds).

    Holyfield's best gameplan would be to move for a while and then engage + he must try to slow it down at times by clinching and holding. It takes a very cool head to get this exactly right and Holyfield exhibited that kind of cool calculation too seldom.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Frazier's chin was a little suspect, and he lacked variety to his game. In the center of the ring, Holfyield has the edge.

    In terms of trading, Frazier could hook to the body or the head well but Holyfield was a good counter puncher, and could in-fight some too.

    In the end, I think Holyfield was the better boxer, and harder man. He'd either out box or hurt Frazier more than vice versa. I'd pick Holyfield via late round TKO or close but clear decsion. The fans would get their monies worth for sure.
     
  9. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield wouldn't box nor does he have the power to put Frazier away. Frazier is much better inside than Holyfield is. He would draw Holyfield into a brawl and would win based on workrate.
     
  10. spion

    spion Active Member Full Member

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    I also agree with Bernstein.
     
  11. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Holyfield put a good 15 round performance against Dwight Muhommad Quai and he beat Mike Tyson...
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    An amazing match up with a decision for Joe ... very hard fought ...
     
  13. kmcc505

    kmcc505 Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    He totally did exactly that versus Tyson.
     
  14. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Holy outboxes Frazier over 12 or 15 rds.......... The Holy of '91 beats the Frazier of 1970......

    MR.BILL
     
  15. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For my part, I think Frazier outworks Holyfield. It'd be a great fight, but in the end, Frazier will be the one to take that decision victory.