Al Haymon has taken over. Completely

Thank you.

What they were paying cable and PPV rates for they're now getting for nothing.

How awful for them.

atsch

 

sheet well you better hope the Premier Boxing Champions is successful, so that the networks start paying Haymon and allowing better fights and more money to the fighters.

At least, that's what a boxing fan would wish for

 

yep! :good

 

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Its gotta be Mayweather haters thats hating on Haymon because it makes no sense.

 

yeah a lot of them are. In the case of Dodong, he hates Mayweather so much, that he'll even defend every single thing that Bob Arum does

 

Well I'd like more promoters to be on free TV, but they aren't. They had the chance and didn't take it. Even if they did, we'd still be having this cold war BS with promoters. So I'm hoping Haymon's large stable is able to draw big ratings on NBC, CBS, Spike and ESPN and bring in new fans into boxing.

From there, hopefully one of two things happen, other promoters (Top Rank), offer to match their fighters against Haymon's on free TV.

Or fighters from those promotional company see how successful PBC is and they leave their old company to sign to Haymon. Then PBC becomes the NFL of boxing

 

Aside from the Superbowl, doesn't football usually do twenty something million viewers? Ali did 65 million on NBC against Richard Dunn. Ray Leonard did 55 million viewers on ABC against Davey Boy Green. Mike Tyson did 43 million viewers on Fox against Buster Mathis Jr.

 

And, since the advent of television ... that has worked exactly NEVER.

Your fantasy world sounds nice, but the truth is what we had up to now is absolutely terrible.

Each division has a WBC champ, a WBA champ, an IBF champ, a WBO champ, a WBA interim Champ, a WBA Regular champ, a WBC Silver Champ ... you have networks that will only deal with certain promoters ... you have fighters that will only box on certain networks ... you have the best fighters refusing to fight each other ... you have middleweight champs (Cotto) refusing to fight middleweights - only welters controlled by his promoter ... you've got U.S. promoters focusing on CHINA instead of making fights here ... and fans have to pay money to somebody (basic cable, PPVs, premium channels) to watch this bull ****?

That's all come about because NO ONE is leading anything.

And that's what you want to win out?

Now we've got Haymon who has worked out a deal with CBS for a couple years of fights in prime time and on weekends and a deal with NBC for prime time and on weekends, and on ESPN for bigger weekend shows, and on Spike and on NBCSports and CBSSports ... in addition to continuing to box on Showtime.

I don't like having one guy calling most of the shots. But every "major" sport does. And if you want to play in professional football, for example, you can either sign with the NFL, go play in Canada, or play in Europe.

If, someday, you want to box in the U.S. and you have to box for Haymon to do so, like you have to answer to Roger Goodell to play in the NFL, at this point I'm fine with that.

Because when we left it to all these promoters and networks and ratings bodies to work together, and gave them DECADES to sort it out ... they screwed over the fans, didn't work together, and charged us more every year to watch the fights.

To hell with all of them.

I'm for whatever brings championship boxing back on free television. If this is it, I'm for it. If another promoter wants to work out a deal with the national networks too, go for it. ABC and Fox are still boxing free. CBS and NBC didn't sign exclusive deals with Haymon.

If other promoters don't like this, they should do something about it. But since none of them seem to want to invest their own money ... and they just want the fans to cover all the bills ... don't expect there to be a rush of competition.

 

Shhh. Boxing is a niche sport. 700,000 viewers are fine. You're supposed to want to pay $75 to watch a big fight.

If you point out 43 million people watched boxing on free TV, you'll ruin everything.

 

I agree.:good

 

Wow

 

Boxing would be better off without Al Haymon.................

 

Basically this. Haymon's fighters still aren't going to fight Top Rank, Goldenboy, K2, or whoever's fighters. Haymon is basically taking them out of circulation, which basically ensures that HBO, Showtime, and now free tv get watered down mismatch cards. By removing his fighters from HBO and Showtime, he's basically building a Chinese wall between his fighters and other promoter's fighters. It's an extension of his protection racket, now that HBO and Showtime were threatening to cut him off if he kept blocking fights. This step to free tv ensures that none of the big fights fans want will ever happen. It would have been better for the sport if Haymon had just agreed to let his fighters fight the other champs and find out who's best. Then at least HBO and Showtime would be awesome instead of everyone having ****ty cards.

 

The Tyson fight I mentioned on Fox which got 43 million viewers was in 1995. That's not a bygone era. That's twenty years ago. Besides other popular fighters do those kinds of ratings in their home countries which show their fights on free tv. Pacquioa get's at least 50 million viewers in the Philippines, Koki Kameda got around 30 million a couple of times in Japan recently, top Mexican fighters like Canelo and Marquez do twenty or thirty million in Mexico all the time. Klitschko fights do 10 million in the Ukraine and 10 mil in Germany and Martinez gets about 13 in Argentina. If you put a big star people have heard of on US tv like Pac or May and you can get 30 million viewers. It's not the 60 million Ali got, or the 50 million Ray Leonard got, or the 40 million Tyson got, because there are more channels, but for a big star you can probably still get 30 million viewers.

Adamek vs Cunningham pulled 4 million viewers on NBC in Dec. 2012. If you go back to 2005 Sergio Mora vs Peter Manfredo got 14 million viewers and they aren't even stars.